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Jun 29, 2016 15:31 |  #19876

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you really need the loupe to see everything.

and you run the built-in sensor cleaner but when it's done do not press ok. it should stop including the IBIS.

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Jun 29, 2016 15:36 |  #19877

nekrosoft13 wrote in post #18053401 (external link)
little over sensitive, don't you think?

I did say its a great lens, but like eriet30 said, point of having a camera like a7 series is to get it a bit more compact.

I would pick Sony 16-35 over it any day to own, but on rare occasion i would still rent the Tamron.

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Oversensitive? You misread what I was commenting on. I'll make myself a little clearer in due course.


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Jun 29, 2016 16:14 |  #19878

Japan Post comes through again, delivering my new-to-me CZ Distagon 24/2 ZA in under a week all the way to South Florida. This is an A-mount lens, bought to be used on both my a7r and a77ii. I bought it from a Japanese seller on eBay for $605 shipped, during a time when I was able to secure $45 in eBay Bucks. For that price, I can probably take whatever compromises I've made in buying this over the Batis 25. Brand new, they are the same price. Because the 24ZA has SSM, I can use the LA-EA3 to AF.

I haven't seen anyone post on this lens here, so I figured I would give my first impressions here after a walk through the park with my kids.

Let's have a look at her mounted on my a7r. IPhone pic, but it gives you the idea.

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With the adapter, it seems roughly as long as a Sigma 50A but a little lighter. The 24ZA is 555g and the LA-EA3 is 110g--the combo is 4.17" in length. I'm not exactly dying to use it on my a6000, although I did try it on and test the AF. More on that in a bit. The 24ZA feels great on the a77ii and AF is quick. I've never shot at ~35mm, so I'm kind of excited to be able to do that on the a77ii. Also, it gives me a something shorter than a 200mm prime to slap on the beast.

I mentioned AF on the a6000 with the 24ZA/LA-EA3 combo and it is not good. If I ever have to use this combo, I'll likely mostly MF. I'm not a big MF shooter, but at least this lens big, smooth focus ring. AF on the a7r was slightly better, oddly, but it was still slow. How slow was it? Well, I failed to get a clean shot of speeding tortoise that crossed our path on the walking trail. I'm sure part of it was me trying to tell the kids they shouldn't try to pet it, but still, you get the point.

But I didn't buy the 24ZA to run and gun. It will be my landscape and group shot lens with some real estate thrown in. And sure, I'll throw it in the bag when I have the a77ii with me--you never know when you'll need a shot inside of 200mm.

Finally, let's get to the question we all want answered: Does it deliver the goods? Here's a few from the park, my first shoot with the 24ZA.

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These may not have been ideal or good conditions for an informal test, but I'm digging the early returns. I was looking to ditch distortion, though, so mission accomplished. I dig the colors, and bokeh looks pretty Zeisstastic to me. It isn't the sharpest lens I've shot at F2, but it is still pretty good. Of the above series, the spider pic was the only one I cropped or removed shadows on.

I think I'll be pretty happy with this lens as a WA solution, at least for what I'll shoot. I'll always wish this were a Batis with fast a native AF, and who knows? Maybe someday I'll have one. But for now, I'm going to see what happens with the 24ZA and roll with it.

What is striking to me is how few people seem to have this lens, especially since there is no 24A in A-mount. Perhaps it is another telling piece of evidence that shows how much more popular it is to use Metabones IV vs the A-mount adapters. At any rate, the 24A with Metabones IV is a combined 815g, 4.75". Is it worth the slight increase in length and weight to shoot a stop faster? I don't see how the answer isn't somewhere between probably and definitely for those who run MB4. But for me, having pushed my photography chips all-in with Sony--this looks like a winning hand.

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Jun 29, 2016 16:19 |  #19879

mystik610 wrote in post #18053435 (external link)
I know this was discussed before, but what should I use to clean the a7rII sensor? I've got some pretty persistent specks and a rocket blower isn't doing the trick. I've used sensor wipes on the a7r, but am not sure what to use on the a7rII.

what brand of sensor wipes do you recommend? My a7r's sensor definitely needs to be cleaned.


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Jun 29, 2016 16:34 |  #19880
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mickeyb105 wrote in post #18053492 (external link)
Japan Post comes through again, delivering my new-to-me CZ Distagon 24/2 ZA in under a week all the way to South Florida. This is an A-mount lens, bought to be used on both my a7r and a77ii. I bought it from a Japanese seller on eBay for $605 shipped, during a time when I was able to secure $45 in eBay Bucks. For that price, I can probably take whatever compromises I've made in buying this over the Batis 25. Brand new, they are the same price. Because the 24ZA has SSM, I can use the LA-EA3 to AF.

I haven't seen anyone post on this lens here, so I figured I would give my first impressions here after a walk through the park with my kids.

Let's have a look at her mounted on my a7r. IPhone pic, but it gives you the idea.


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IMAGE LINK: https://www.flickr.com …281/in/datepost​ed-public/  (external link)
IMG_2233 (external link) by Michael Bielecki (external link) on Flickr

With the adapter, it seems roughly as long as a Sigma 50A but a little lighter. The 24ZA is 555g and the LA-EA3 is 110g--the combo is 4.17" in length. I'm not exactly dying to use it on my a6000, although I did try it on and test the AF. More on that in a bit. The 24ZA feels great on the a77ii and AF is quick. I've never shot at ~35mm, so I'm kind of excited to be able to do that on the a77ii. Also, it gives me a something shorter than a 200mm prime to slap on the beast.

I mentioned AF on the a6000 with the 24ZA/LA-EA3 combo and it is not good. If I ever have to use this combo, I'll likely mostly MF. I'm not a big MF shooter, but at least this lens big, smooth focus ring. AF on the a7r was slightly better, oddly, but it was still slow. How slow was it? Well, I failed to get a clean shot of speeding tortoise that crossed our path on the walking trail. I'm sure part of it was me trying to tell the kids they shouldn't try to pet it, but still, you get the point.

But I didn't buy the 24ZA to run and gun. It will be my landscape and group shot lens with some real estate thrown in. And sure, I'll throw it in the bag when I have the a77ii with me--you never know when you'll need a shot inside of 200mm.

Finally, let's get to the question we all want answered: Does it deliver the goods? Here's a few from the park, my first shoot with the 24ZA.


QUOTED IMAGE
IMAGE LINK: https://www.flickr.com …566/in/datepost​ed-public/  (external link)
park0416 (external link) by Michael Bielecki (external link) on Flickr

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park0216 (external link) on Flickr

https://www.flickr.com …teposted-public/lightbox/ (external link)
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These may not have been ideal or good conditions for an informal test, but I'm digging the early returns. I was looking to ditch distortion, though, so mission accomplished. I dig the colors, and bokeh looks pretty Zeisstastic to me. It isn't the sharpest lens I've shot at F2, but it is still pretty good. Of the above series, the spider pic was the only one I cropped or removed shadows on.

I think I'll be pretty happy with this lens as a WA solution, at least for what I'll shoot. I'll always wish this were a Batis with fast a native AF, and who knows? Maybe someday I'll have one. But for now, I'm going to see what happens with the 24ZA and roll with it.

What is striking to me is how few people seem to have this lens, especially since there is no 24A in A-mount. Perhaps it is another telling piece of evidence that shows how much more popular it is to use Metabones IV vs the A-mount adapters. At any rate, the 24A with Metabones IV is a combined 815g, 4.75". Is it worth the slight increase in length and weight to shoot a stop faster? I don't see how the answer isn't somewhere between probably and definitely for those who run MB4. But for me, having pushed my photography chips all-in with Sony--this looks like a winning hand.

this is screw driven right?


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Jun 29, 2016 16:51 |  #19881

David Arbogast wrote in post #18053462 (external link)
Oversensitive? You misread what I was commenting on. I'll make myself a little clearer later.


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Jun 29, 2016 17:07 |  #19882

nekrosoft13 wrote in post #18053504 (external link)
this is screw driven right?

No, the 24 f2 is SSM which is why it will AF on my LA-EA3.

http://www.dpreview.co​m/reviews/sony-24-2-m15 (external link)

I've read that the Mark II A7 bodies (and likely the a6300) focus pretty fast with the 24/2 and LA-EA3 combination. According to Brian Smith, the combo "offers fast and accurate AF-C and AF-S with Wide, Center and Flexible Spot Focus Areas" on the A7rII.


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Jun 29, 2016 17:35 |  #19883

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Jun 29, 2016 17:41 |  #19884

My new rims arrived :-D

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Jun 29, 2016 18:56 |  #19885

nice....


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Jun 29, 2016 19:10 |  #19886

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nice....

But you know how it is, photoshop should get more credits :p


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Jun 29, 2016 19:20 |  #19887

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But you know how it is, photoshop should get more credits :p

At least you can "try before you buy" that way  :p


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Jun 29, 2016 19:33 |  #19888

Nice BMW David. I wish they didn't have the hood with the straight line. I liked the older style.

Anyone own a Ford Fusion hybrid? Looking for a fuel efficient car.


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Jun 29, 2016 19:50 |  #19889

More dress up time

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Jun 29, 2016 19:52 |  #19890

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Nice BMW David. I wish they didn't have the hood with the straight line. I liked the older style.

Anyone own a Ford Fusion hybrid? Looking for a fuel efficient car.

Thanks. Yeah, that seems to bug most people. For some odd reason i kind of like it, thought. I think i like it because it adds to its aggressive look i guess


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