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Jul 08, 2016 12:38 |  #1

Hi folks,

I recently got a Phottix Indra and was wondering which Bowens compatible collapsible, umbrella-type octaboxes are in use for weddings that you all can suggest.

In order of priority for me from most important to least:

  • Speed and portability is key (no assembly). Open like an umbrella and collapses as one
  • Able to take grids
  • Large enough for full length portraits and groups
  • Durable
  • Monolight should be able to pivot up and down properly (I am thinking the Westcott Apollo issues with pivoting)
  • Cost.


I'm hoping that someone can help save me from the plethora of choices out there :)



  
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Jul 10, 2016 21:56 |  #2

OK, so I see Phottix has softboxes that have a speed ring but collapse which is great, but they can't take grids :(

Are there any other types like that?




  
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Jul 12, 2016 11:06 |  #3

Ok, so in doing more research, I see this Fotodiox EZ-Pro Octagon Softbox 60" :

https://amzn.com/B003E​WOC2I (external link)

Having never used a large softbox, is this too big for on-location shooting like in a wedding? There are also 36", 48" and this one, which is the 60"

Previously, I used speedlights in an old 28x28" Westcott Apollo, but needed more power which is why I got the Indra. I wasn't a fan of putting the flash inside the softbox as it restricted pivoting so I am looking for another modifier that still gives me speed, but can take a grid too.




  
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Jul 17, 2016 16:47 |  #4

I'm not a big fan of the Apollo either.

I have not used this one from Fotodiox, but two observations. 1, it is easier to setup than other softboxes. 2, I would be concerned about the umbrella hardware.

I don't know how big you are wanting to go. My go to modifier is the QS33 for my photobooths. Quick and compact. http://www.cheetahstan​d.com/product-p/qs33.htm (external link)

I've seen a post from one person that said his did not hold up but so far I'm doing great. My stuff sees lots of abuse. I used to buy softlighters by the truckload. The umbrella mechanism were too fragile. My case is probably more extreme than most. Too many people just tossing stuff in road cases without thinking.

My recommendation is if you go with the Fotodiox, buy 2. On the other hand you might just want to think about buying softlighters and keeping spares. https://amzn.com/B0055​E6TY2 (external link) They put out a nice light and are cheap.


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Jul 18, 2016 08:58 as a reply to  @ bigVinnie's post |  #5

Hey, thanks for responding with that suggestion bigVinne. I want to use the modifier to light full length during the portrait session at weddings on location. In my mind, I am thinking 60" might be too big to maneuver and would become a sail, especially since I like speed and mobility, but I am not sure if a smaller box would light head to toe properly.

I've been using and abusing the 28"x28" Apollo for years and even though it is an umbrella system (and it has a few small tears in it), it still works.

I will consider the QS33 though. The price is certainly attractive. Since you mentioned your stuff sees lots of abuse, do you find the QS33 durable? Do you get full length out of it and do you have any sample shots of persons taken at full length?




  
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Jul 18, 2016 15:21 |  #6

I don't do full length. I do photobooths. My gear gets handled by people who just want to load up and go. So far so good. I don't think the qs33 would be the right choice for doing full length. Think beauty dish with a sock.

Shot below is typical of what I do. 40D, AD600 I think was 1/64 power with QS33. Probably 1/180th & F8. I try to always setup to use F8 for my booths. Distance maybe 6ft. from subject. I do so many that details can get a bit fuzzy. (edit) Didn't realize the exif was intact lol.


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Jul 18, 2016 16:27 |  #7

I use the 48 inch ez-pro and am impressed with how well it holds up. If I want a bigger light, I keep a 7' umbrella as a backup.


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Jul 18, 2016 16:31 |  #8

This is full length with the 48" ez-pro.

IMAGE: https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7723/27915751366_9222739aec_b.jpg

Toronto area photographer http://www.SimonMellic​kPhotography.com (external link)
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Jul 19, 2016 15:49 as a reply to  @ rebelsimon's post |  #9

Thanks rebelsimon! That is most helpful.

Question- a lot of reviews say the Fotodioxis is heavy. Do you find this to be the case as well?




  
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Jul 19, 2016 16:36 as a reply to  @ trailblazer's post |  #10

Ya, it's heavy. Mine as survived a few big crashes and hasn't skipped a beat.


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Jul 21, 2016 13:34 as a reply to  @ rebelsimon's post |  #11

Thanks for that info




  
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