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What do you think is the sweet spot? For me the 105.

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vinmunoz wrote in post #18080390
What do you think is the sweet spot? For me the 105.

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I honestly don't see too much difference between 50 and 105. 150 he looks wider than he should and below 50 it looks too narrow. I think any focal length in the 50-105 window is fine

Personally (and speaking as, primarily a headshot photographer), I definitely like 100mm-135mm. BUT.... and this is a big but. Compression happens because of distance, not the focal length of your lens. So, if you feel like your 85 is giving you too much distortion when you frame a headshot right in camera, all you need to do is just increase the distance between you and the subject. Then crop it in tighter later in post.

In my Canon days, my go-to for headshots was the 100L, second most frequent was 135L. Since I started using the Batis 85 as my primary go-to headshot lens, I've just tried to force myself to shoot a little looser than I typically would, then crop it in a little in post. With 42MP, this is no problem at all. But that said, I'm still waiting with baited breath for Sony or Zeiss (or Zony) to release something in the 100-135 range. Probably the only thing keeping me from taking the plunge on the 85GM. Because I know what I ultimately want is a 135'ish

It's also not just about compression of the face... look at the way his shoulders drop and broaden out as well. Sometimes if I'm shooting a guy who spends time in the gym, I may pull out the seldom-used 70-200 and shoot him at 185mm'ish because it keeps all his features nice and broad. Conversely, if it's a gal who's maybe a bit weight conscious, she might actually appreciate the compression that naturally happens with a 70mm (and shoot from above).

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #18080196
Saying "on an APS-C sensor" like they're all the same is just not a good way of looking at it. The a7R I had was significantly worse than my X-E2 at any ISO above 1600... there may have been less actual grain in the images, but the colors were totally off, there were color casts, color noise all over and weird color shifts, those files were WAY harder to deal with in post than anything I get from my X-E2 or even my old T2i honestly (though they were definitely sharper than what I got from my T2i, the X-E2 is a wash in terms of sharpness and detail at high ISO in my opinion).

I've looked at quite a few files from the X-Pro2 and to my eyes the shots are very useable at ISO12800 in full color.

Well, in a way they are "all the same" to me as in "they are all unacceptable above ISO 800-1600 when the light levels get low". I have a folder called "Samples" on my SSD which is filled with RAW files from cameras which look interesting at launch (APS-C + fullframe and from various brands). So I pixelpeep them and try out noise reduction. So yeah, I know what I'm talking about. But hey, I've said it before that I'm allergic to noise.

I think the X-Pro2 images at ISO 12800 look atrocious.

The A7R comparison also isn't the best comparison since it's one of the weakest fullframe sensors I know regarding high ISO performance. If you want good/great high ISO performance on the Sony fullframe side, you have to look at the A7S/A7SII/A7RII.

vinmunoz wrote in post #18080390
What do you think is the sweet spot? For me the 105.

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It starts to look very good from 105mm and upwards. But my favorite ones are 135mm and 200mm.

Charlie wrote in post #18080242
you previously mentioned in a post:

Ok, so show me the Sony 18mm f2, 35mm f1.4, 16mm f1.4, 56mm f1.2, 90mm f2, 10-24mm f4, etc...

if you think the crop factor is OK, then with the A7rii and something like batis 25, can replace 16, 18, 35.

56 1.2 + 90f2 replaced by batis 85 or EF 100, simply crop in post. CV 15 replaces 10-24, crop in post.

I certainly wouldnt be comfortable with those types of crops, but since you say it's hyperbole, then you can certainly deal with it. 3 sony lenses replaces 6 fuji lenses.

You can't be serious... this next post from Vinz came at the perfect time

vinmunoz wrote in post #18080389
focal length effects....

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jocau wrote in post #18080554
Well, in a way they are "all the same" to me as in "they are all unacceptable above ISO 800-1600 when the light levels get low". I have a folder called "Samples" on my SSD which is filled with RAW files from cameras which look interesting at launch (APS-C + fullframe and from various brands). So I pixelpeep them and try out noise reduction. So yeah, I know what I'm talking about. But hey, I've said it before that I'm allergic to noise.

I think the X-Pro2 images at ISO 12800 look atrocious.

The A7R comparison also isn't the best comparison since it's one of the weakest fullframe sensors I know regarding high ISO performance. If you want good/great high ISO performance on the Sony fullframe side, you have to look at the A7S/A7SII/A7RII.

With all do respect, you shoot with a T2i and complain about literally every other camera in existence and continue to wait for the perfect camera... it's hard to take anything you consider "atrocious" as such.

I take pictures because I enjoy it. I don't pixel peep because I've never understood the point... when I print pictures (even at 20x30 from my 8mp EOS 20D) I never view them with that amount of scrutiny, when I view and share them on the web I never view them with that amount of scrutiny (even when viewing in full resolution on a 65" 4K display from 10' away)... so why would I obsess over detail at 1:1 or even further magnification?

I have an a7S, I have an X-E2, I've owned an a7R and a Canon 6D... below ISO1600 there ain't a whole lot of difference between them. Your blanket statement about how noisy APS-C sensors are probably should've been more specific, which was my entire counter point to your statement about noisy APS-C cameras in the first place...

You can keep chasing your unicorn camera, I'll keep taking pictures with all of my cameras and enjoying the photos they produce

Batis 18

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EverydayGetaway wrote in post #18080614
You can't be serious... this next post from Vinz came at the perfect time

Vinz post doesnt do anything to debunk what i posted earlier. Bpaulette explains this in his post following vinz's post.

to all:

do we have to argue or try to make a point at every subject now?

let's just drop it and support each other as we did before.

please!!

Agree! Can we all get back to posting images and helping each other out instead of the constant battles over which brand is better or which format is better?

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #18080614
With all do respect, you shoot with a T2i and complain about literally every other camera in existence and continue to wait for the perfect camera... it's hard to take anything you consider "atrocious" as such.

No, I do not. I just like to look at cameras and decide which are in my opinion the "weak" and "strong" points (e.g. I've said before how much I like IBIS and Eye AF). The opposite could be said of you too. I know you are very tolerant regarding high ISO noise (which is fine by the way), so I know I have to take things with a bag of salt when you say a camera's high ISO performance is good/great.

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #18080614
I take pictures because I enjoy it. I don't pixel peep because I've never understood the point... when I print pictures (even at 20x30 from my 8mp EOS 20D) I never view them with that amount of scrutiny, when I view and share them on the web I never view them with that amount of scrutiny (even when viewing in full resolution on a 65" 4K display from 10' away)... so why would I obsess over detail at 1:1 or even further magnification?

Welcome to the digital age, where pixelpeeping is a normal thing to do for various people. I pixelpeep or look at prints from a close distance because I like doing it, just like you like taking pictures.

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #18080614
I have an a7S, I have an X-E2, I've owned an a7R and a Canon 6D... below ISO1600 there ain't a whole lot of difference between them. Your blanket statement about how noisy APS-C sensors are probably should've been more specific, which was my entire counter point to your statement about noisy APS-C cameras in the first place...

I should not have been more specific since every APS-C camera I've examined RAW files from since I got my 550D/T2i (beginning of 2011) is too noisy for me past ISO 800-1600 when the light levels get low (and I've examined various brands). That's of course my personal and very subjective opinion.

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #18080614
You can keep chasing your unicorn camera, I'll keep taking pictures with all of my cameras and enjoying the photos they produce

You can keep thinking I'm chasing a unicorn camera, but you couldn't be more wrong to be honest. I've accepted long time ago that the perfect camera does not exist. I could buy an A7II today and be 80% or even 90% happy with it. But I simply cannot justify it.

I've probably spent between €5.000 and €6.000 on camera equipment in the last 5 years and all it has been doing is collecting dust most of the time. It's the worst investment ever for me. That's because I don't even enjoy the process of taking pictures that much. I much prefer watching photography tutorials, postprocessing images and seeing the final result. Combine that with the fact that photography is probably the lowest priority hobby I've ever had and you'll understand the real reason why I haven't bought a new camera yet surely isn't because I'm waiting for the perfect camera...

Also, the image quality of my 550D/T2i is good enough for me most of the time (there is always room for improvement of course), even though its AF is pure crap. I'd rather have my money in my savings account (or spent on something I'd use often) than it being wasted on another camera that's going to be collecting dust again most of the time. At least that's the way I see it. Eventually though, I will get a new camera. My previous camera lasted for 8 years and mine is "only" about 5,5 years old now so...

DTBaan wrote in post #18080674
to all:

do we have to argue or try to make a point at every subject now?

let's just drop it and support each other as we did before.

please!!

Just got to get through one more month.

DTBaan wrote in post #18080674
to all:

do we have to argue or try to make a point at every subject now?

let's just drop it and support each other as we did before.

please!!

I'd love to but lately there's this guy who has to let everyone in here know how sharpness is overrated, how a fullframe sensor is overrated, how IBIS is overrated, how Sony is lacking support for their cameras and how awesome Fuji is (all of that in a Sony thread). It has come to a point where it's becoming annoying.

i need to post more Brittneys here....