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Jul 31, 2016 16:44 |  #12856

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And I too like the 1/1000 but sometimes ya got to do what ya got to do.

Don't get me wrong. I'd love to be able to shoot 1000sec and faster but I'll near always drop aperture or shutter speed, particularly when I envisage having to crop, rather than go above iso 800. But needs must as you say Jeff, and I'm beginning to pay a bit more attention nowadays to the need to get the shot come what may.

I guess I'm a bit anal/perfectionist, 'cause in the past I would look through the viewfinder, see a too low shutter speed or aperture (in AV) and say to myself, "this ain't gonna work, the iso needs to be too high for me", and then not bother with the shot. Nowadays I'm beginning to think more like, "I need to up the iso to get this one and let PP handle the noise". I guess the former thinking comes from so many years with the old Canon 350 when I knew if I upped the iso the shot would be crap anyways and my lack of PP skills. I guess I just need to have more faith in the better noise handling of today's combo and not spend as much time looking at my 100% on screen images.


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Jul 31, 2016 16:52 as a reply to  @ bidkev's post |  #12857

So true Kev, Ive been to both ends a few time's lol. I mean your stuff is second to non we all know that. Really its all about the light. if its working for us or not. I don't for sure try and shoot at big numbers and sometimes I just got to stop down to get the depth I need which doesn't help but the camera can get it done most of the time but you know I have to have the detail.

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Jul 31, 2016 17:10 as a reply to  @ post 18082572 |  #12858

I appreciate the "likes", but nobody has offered an answer to my question. -?




  
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Jul 31, 2016 17:15 |  #12859

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I appreciate the "likes", but nobody has offered an answer to my question. -?

I think that in general, a lower ISO and longer exposure time is always preferable for IQ unless your subject is moving. In your case, you have a static scene, so you could have just as easily gone for a long exposure. However, I think BW can hide noise pretty well, so a higher ISO that you may eschew for noise reasons in a color shot would also work just fine.


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Jul 31, 2016 17:23 as a reply to  @ wisv1k's post |  #12860

I asked which one it was iso or long exposure


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Jul 31, 2016 17:25 as a reply to  @ Scrumhalf's post |  #12861

Thanks, I know I did opt for low ISO in this shot but I don't recall exactly. I'll have to pull it back up on my other computer to check. Thanks for the advice! Much appreciated!

Edit... I added the exposure info the the original post.




  
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Jul 31, 2016 18:00 |  #12862

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So true Kev, Ive been to both ends a few time's lol. I mean your stuff is second to non we all know that. Really its all about the light. if its working for us or not. I don't for sure try and shoot at big numbers and sometimes I just got to stop down to get the depth I need which doesn't help but the camera can get it done most of the time but you know I have to have the detail.

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He's a beauty Jeff, and don't worry, you have the detail :-)


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Jul 31, 2016 18:05 as a reply to  @ bidkev's post |  #12863

lol I don't know why kev, must be better with one arm than two.


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Jul 31, 2016 18:15 |  #12864

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This is something different for the thread. Definitely something different for me. It was very dark and, after the fact, I began to wonder is it better to have a longer exposure or bump up the ISO. I had an extremely solid tripod used for medium format so stability not a concern. Thoughts?
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I dont have much experience in ng exposures and noise produced. But, My guess is that there is a crossover in exposure time at which point noise gets heavier from long exposure vs high iso. I would think 8 second at 400 ISI woud be much less noisy than the same shot at 1/4 second and 12,800 iso.




  
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Jul 31, 2016 18:27 |  #12865

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The puffins leave for the open ocean in August, so we were quite pleased to be able to see them before they departed.

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Pigeon Guillemot at its nesting site, Haystack Rock, Cannon Beach, Oregon.

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Jul 31, 2016 23:11 |  #12866

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Aug 01, 2016 08:19 |  #12869

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Good onya Doc. Most of what I learned was from this forum. I'm old school, and, "digital will never take off" I said at one time :-) "WTF is "noise?" I said...............all those years striving for arty farty grainy street images in the dark room and now I'm into wildlife, I spend most of my time PP trying to reduce it :-)

I played around yesterday afternoon seeing if I could hand hold at 1/250 with the IS on and get good results. The first two photos were at 1/250.

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Aug 01, 2016 08:29 as a reply to  @ McNeese72's post |  #12870

I don't think you can Doc...I know you can......


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