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Jul 30, 2016 13:52 |  #7816

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That is a crazy shot! The contrast of a dressed up woman with a purse sitting in an exotic/dangerous location creates this interesting cognitive dissonance.


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Jul 30, 2016 14:52 |  #7817

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[...] an exotic/dangerous location [...]

... which is normally overcrowded and therefore a very difficult shooting location...




  
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Jul 31, 2016 20:09 |  #7818

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... which is normally overcrowded and therefore a very difficult shooting location...


Actually, this location was quite secluded but yes, it was very difficult to shoot as it was hard to make our way down. There was not much space to stand to compose & the waves were constantly crashing against the rocks and spraying upward into the camera. I originally planned to use AB 800 with ND & Octa but the wind was to strong so I had to wing it with SB910 on a bracket. :-)


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Jul 31, 2016 23:07 |  #7819

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Aug 03, 2016 02:26 |  #7820


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EDIT: Something's wrong with the colors when I uploaded this image. The yellows and greens are less saturated than they should be in the top portion with the leaves and fruits. What could be causing that? Never seen it happen before.

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Aug 03, 2016 03:45 as a reply to  @ Lunatique's post |  #7821

Not so much a problem with the colours. But did you focus on her eyes? I think the focus is more on the breast and details of the vest. Nice shot though. - but for the focus.


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Aug 03, 2016 08:15 |  #7822

Looks good to me. I like the focus a little soft on her face. Wow, what a beautiful smile!


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Aug 03, 2016 12:09 |  #7823

rrblint wrote in post #18085322 (external link)
Looks good to me. I like the focus a little soft on her face. Wow, what a beautiful smile!

At f1.8 you can't afford to miss the eyes. My guess given the camera listed, is that a large area of focus was used and it grabbed the chest as mentioned above - would have worked at F3.5 but not F1.8.


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Aug 03, 2016 13:57 |  #7824

wallstreetoneil wrote in post #18085487 (external link)
At f1.8 you can't afford to miss the eyes. My guess given the camera listed, is that a large area of focus was used and it grabbed the chest as mentioned above - would have worked at F3.5 but not F1.8.

I like the face being soft. Horses for courses.


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Aug 03, 2016 20:57 |  #7825

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Not so much a problem with the colours. But did you focus on her eyes? I think the focus is more on the breast and details of the vest. Nice shot though. - but for the focus.

I figured out why the colors were off. It's because of a Chrome extension that changes the colors of web pages I use, called "Stylish." You can download different themes for different websites or global themes, so for example if you hate white backgrounds of websites, you can change them to dark themes. The theme I was using somehow lowers the saturation of the yellows and greens in that photo, but it doesn't affect other colors.

As for focus on her eyes, it wasn't pinpoint sharp, but wasn't too bad either. Here's a 100% crop:


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When I shoot with the E-M1, I have face recognition and eye-focus turned on, so the camera will focus on the nearest eye, and I think I used the smallest focal point placed about 1/3 of the way up, in the middle, so it's very close to where her eyes were when I took the shot. I think I had it on single-shot AF and not continuous AF--not totally sure.

It's annoying when the focus isn't perfect on the eyes, and I hate it when I have a really good shot but the focus is so off that I just can't use it. In this case, it's not bad enough to ruin the shot for me, since having captured her facial expression and body language and overall aura was enough to make it a keeper for me.

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Aug 03, 2016 21:02 |  #7826

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I like the face being soft. Horses for courses.

Some people think when shooting people, the eyes have to be in perfect tack-sharp focus. Some even want all the features that sharp and hate it when only the eyes or one eye is in focus. For me, because I'm a huge fan of impressionist painters, I don't mind it sometimes when photography take on that impressionistic quality, where having perfect sharpness isn't a requirement for a beautiful image. This is especially true if the photo captures something expressive and evocative.


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Aug 03, 2016 21:17 |  #7827

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Aug 03, 2016 22:14 |  #7828

Lunatique wrote in post #18085873 (external link)
Some people think when shooting people, the eyes have to be in perfect tack-sharp focus. Some even want all the features that sharp and hate it when only the eyes or one eye is in focus. For me, because I'm a huge fan of impressionist painters, I don't mind it sometimes when photography take on that impressionistic quality, where having perfect sharpness isn't a requirement for a beautiful image. This is especially true if the photo captures something expressive and evocative.

Looks great to me. Back in film days we had what was called a soft-focus filter. It produced a soft glow around the subject and looked great particularly on women and they loved it. I used to use it quite frequently, at least one roll for each shoot.


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Aug 04, 2016 04:01 |  #7829

Lunatique wrote in post #18085870 (external link)
I figured out why the colors were off. It's because of a Chrome extension that changes the colors of web pages I use, called "Stylish." You can download different themes for different websites or global themes, so for example if you hate white backgrounds of websites, you can change them to dark themes. The theme I was using somehow lowers the saturation of the yellows and greens in that photo, but it doesn't affect other colors.

As for focus on her eyes, it wasn't pinpoint sharp, but wasn't too bad either. Here's a 100% crop:

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When I shoot with the E-M1, I have face recognition and eye-focus turned on, so the camera will focus on the nearest eye, and I think I used the smallest focal point placed about 1/3 of the way up, in the middle, so it's very close to where her eyes were when I took the shot. I think I had it on single-shot AF and not continuous AF--not totally sure.

It's annoying when the focus isn't perfect on the eyes, and I hate it when I have a really good shot but the focus is so off that I just can't use it. In this case, it's not bad enough to ruin the shot for me, since having captured her facial expression and body language and overall aura was enough to make it a keeper for me.

Thanks for posting this follow up. Before I wrote what I did, I was going to add but didn't, that the appearance initially of a lack of Sharpness on the eyes could be a slight brown eye illusion effect I have seen in certain situations.

I'm not saying it is happening here but the close up is sharper than I would have thought.

I have found this brown eye effect to be real in certain light and it bugs me that it is because I'm one of those people that likes the eye very sharp. Anyways, my observation is that people with lighter colour eyes never have this happen as the camera sees through and picks up additional colours in the eye making it appear sharp but if you have a certain colour of brown and the light is hitting the eye in a certain way you can get a look that appears hazy and your brain immediately says it isn't sharp because you can't see detail - I think some of that is happening here.

Thanks for the follow-up.


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Aug 04, 2016 08:37 |  #7830

Lunatique wrote in post #18085870 (external link)
I figured out why the colors were off. It's because of a Chrome extension that changes the colors of web pages I use, called "Stylish." You can download different themes for different websites or global themes, so for example if you hate white backgrounds of websites, you can change them to dark themes. The theme I was using somehow lowers the saturation of the yellows and greens in that photo, but it doesn't affect other colors.

As for focus on her eyes, it wasn't pinpoint sharp, but wasn't too bad either. Here's a 100% crop:

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When I shoot with the E-M1, I have face recognition and eye-focus turned on, so the camera will focus on the nearest eye, and I think I used the smallest focal point placed about 1/3 of the way up, in the middle, so it's very close to where her eyes were when I took the shot. I think I had it on single-shot AF and not continuous AF--not totally sure.

It's annoying when the focus isn't perfect on the eyes, and I hate it when I have a really good shot but the focus is so off that I just can't use it. In this case, it's not bad enough to ruin the shot for me, since having captured her facial expression and body language and overall aura was enough to make it a keeper for me.

have you tried using the focus peaking and shooting manual focus? i hope it becomes standard on DSLRs.


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