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Aug 16, 2016 22:43 |  #22261

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #18097713 (external link)
I have 1DXii. It does not have the DR of the A7Rii.
Just received 5Dsr couple of weeks ago knowing 5Div coming out soon but knowing the sensor was not going
to be anywhere near the 50.6 of the 5Dsr so no interest.
What I'm waiting on now in the EOS world is the 7Diii since the D5000 is better in several ways.

I didn't know you had a 5dsr too. Do you use it much? Haven't heard your impressions. Or any comments on it.


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Aug 16, 2016 22:48 |  #22262

eriet30 wrote in post #18097794 (external link)
Luminosity..... bah. I really need to learn PS

Did you ever get your TS-E 24L II sold? I just put mine up for sale tonight. Seems like a tough market for such a great lens.


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Aug 16, 2016 22:59 |  #22263

Puckman wrote in post #18097798 (external link)
Honestly. I have days where I do want the go back to canon. I still get pretty frustrated with the Sony at times.

Whatcha getting?

Getting back to gimmick lenses, think I'm done with landscape stuff for now, my urge for loxia is dying out. Getting a Mitakon 50...... again :twisted:


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Aug 16, 2016 23:01 |  #22264

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Did you ever get your TS-E 24L II sold? I just put mine up for sale tonight. Seems like a tough market for such a great lens.

nope I have a guy on FM talking to me going to have to throw my comlite adapter in and then I might have the deal


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Aug 17, 2016 00:26 |  #22265

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Getting back to gimmick lenses, think I'm done with landscape stuff for now, my urge for loxia is dying out. Getting a Mitakon 50...... again :twisted:

Speaking of gimmick lenses (not Sony related sorry), got the Yongnuo 35/2 this week and for the monies (98 bucks) it is nice.


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Aug 17, 2016 00:35 |  #22266

Puckman wrote in post #18097799 (external link)
I didn't know you had a 5dsr too. Do you use it much? Haven't heard your impressions. Or any comments on it.

Yeah I should have listed to David Arbogast a while back and got one sooner. There is nothing like it on Earth, well except the A7Rii for resolution....too bad the A7Rii
just cant handle my 400, 500 or for that matter the 100-400ii to suit me.
Honestly I love the 5Dsr and have really only scratched the surface ---in that I've not played with the bulb, the intervalometer, the in-camera time-lapse movie, etc.
For what I do....sadly mainly perched birds it is a freak machine for resolution. I've even found for BIF that 5fps is plenty. And the landscaping capabilities is a given.
Back to wildlife, it's the cropability. What other camera allows BIF with a wide angle lens! ha! It's well almost true but you can do with a 300mm what normally you'd
want a 500 {and this allows you to see so much of the overall field of view}, and I'm even looking at the EOS 70-300 just for this body--too bad it doesn't take a TC well.

Some of my EOS bud's said what? Wait for the 5Div, but I knew it wouldn't have anything close to 50.6mp's, in fact only way I'd cried was if the 5Div had more than the A7Rii;
now the specs are out that is moot.

Negatives- I've found the information in the viewfinder dim. The buffer is nothing like I'm spoiled with via the 1DXii. I used to own a 5Diii and the SD card was crippled in that
cam but fixed on the 5Dsr, and I've learned to have jpg to SD and playback from SD so gimping (or is it chimping??) is quicker than most said in the early reviews.

Yep a freak camera but I'm digging it.

All that said, I still carry my Lumix GX8 everyday, everywhere....go figure :)


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Aug 17, 2016 01:03 |  #22267

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #18097878 (external link)
Yeah I should have listed to David Arbogast a while back and got one sooner.

Speaking of listening, I'm glad I listened to your recommendation on the EF 24-70 f/4L IS. I'm very happy with mine, especially after I gave it a little torture test today. I set up my camera on the tripod and tested the Otus 55 vs 24-70 f/4L at f/8. Exact same settings and same scene. The 24-70 didn't win, as expected, but it was a lot closer than I would have expected. Plenty of detail. Very acceptable to my eyes. It cured me of that FE 24-70mm F2.8 GM second thoughts I was having last night. :)


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Aug 17, 2016 01:44 |  #22268

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Speaking of listening, I'm glad I listened to your recommendation on the EF 24-70 f/4L IS. I'm very happy with mine, especially after I gave it a little torture test today. I set up my camera on the tripod and tested the Otus 55 vs 24-70 f/4L at f/8. Exact same settings and same scene. The 24-70 didn't win, as expected, but it was a lot closer than I would have expected. Plenty of detail. Very acceptable to my eyes. It cured me of that FE 24-70mm F2.8 GM second thoughts I was having last night. :)

Hehe, we all influence each other and mostly in a hugely positive way; but if anyone needs to at least try the FE GM 24-70 it is you :)
Me, well the occasional use of that FL really does suggest the EOS is plenty. I read what you just said but I bet it wont be long!
Speaking of the adapted 24-70 on the A7Rii, were you offended by the edge softness at all? I'm just sold on F4, these newer sensors
are king to take weight off my back and I'll never shoot a low light wedding.


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Aug 17, 2016 03:28 |  #22269

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http://www.sonyalpharu​mors.com …ews-new-canon-5d-mark-iv/ (external link)

5D Mark IV to be announced soon . If its a similar sensor design to the 1DXII, it should have near level Sony DR.

so....who's switching back?

I will never go back to canon. Noise banding on pushed shadows is so darn ugly on canons


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Aug 17, 2016 04:49 |  #22270

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http://www.sonyalpharu​mors.com …ews-new-canon-5d-mark-iv/ (external link)

5D Mark IV to be announced soon . If its a similar sensor design to the 1DXII, it should have near level Sony DR.

so....who's switching back?

I'm done with (Canon) DSLR cameras. Next one is going to be a mirrorless camera. A DSLR only makes sense to me if you shoot a lot of sports or if you shoot a lot in extreme conditions. Things I don't like about a DSLR:

  • Backfocus/frontfocus problems
  • Focus accuracy with fast primes (using the OVF)
  • Bulkiness
  • No WYSIWYG in the OVF
  • No "magnify" mode in the OVF to accurately use manual focus
  • No IBIS (even though that's more of a Sony/Olympus feature)

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I have high hopes that the 5D V will finally catch up to the a7R II dynamic range. :)

I'm not believing it until I see it. I bet it will be better than the 5D3, but I don't believe it will equal (or surpass) the DR of the Sony A7R/A7RII.


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Aug 17, 2016 05:10 |  #22271

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I'm not believing it until I see it. I bet it will be better than the 5D3, but I don't believe it will equal (or surpass) the DR of the Sony A7R/A7RII.

You might have missed my subtle joke. I referenced the 5D V, not the soon-to-be released 5D IV. I probably should have made that 5D IXX. :)


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Aug 17, 2016 05:36 |  #22272

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I have 1DXii. It does not have the DR of the A7Rii.
Just received 5Dsr couple of weeks ago knowing 5Div coming out soon but knowing the sensor was not going
to be anywhere near the 50.6 of the 5Dsr so no interest.
What I'm waiting on now in the EOS world is the 7Diii since the D5000 is better in several ways.

Interesting. My impression is that Canon caught up to sony with base ISO DR...I guess they're still not there.

The 5DIV is pretty underwhelming in my eyes. Incremental upgrade, but nothing that really pushes the envelope. Its undoubtedly a great workhorse camera, but I was honestly expecting more from Canon.


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Aug 17, 2016 05:59 |  #22273

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Interesting. My impression is that Canon caught up to sony with base ISO DR...I guess they're still not there.

The 5DIV is pretty underwhelming in my eyes. Incremental upgrade, but nothing that really pushes the envelope. Its undoubtedly a great workhorse camera, but I was honestly expecting more from Canon.

Mystik hopefully you know I don't know what the base ISO of either the A7Rii or the 1DXii is....sad but true...better though that I don't care. Base ISO implies to me 'low' ISO which just doesn't exist in my world of dark gloom. I plan to shoot this morning with the 5Dsr and the min. ISO I'll get until noon is 1600 and that is IF I have Sun.
Kinda crazy getting to play with the cameras I do and have the overall limited understanding I do. I guess there are worse things.


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mystik610 wrote in post #18097964 (external link)
Interesting. My impression is that Canon caught up to sony with base ISO DR...I guess they're still not there.

The 5DIV is pretty underwhelming in my eyes. Incremental upgrade, but nothing that really pushes the envelope. Its undoubtedly a great workhorse camera, but I was honestly expecting more from Canon.

and that the problem... everyone expect more from the "leader" but this "leader" been barely keeping up for past 10+ years.


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