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Aug 18, 2016 09:55 |  #1

I am very interested in a sony a6300 and from what I've seen its very good and light years ahead of anything I owned.

I am a little afraid of UI on those cameras and of completely changing from canon.


Someone please give me reasons why I shouldn't buy this over the new 80D, 7D mark 2 or a 6D(those are within my budget)

I shoot a bit of everything as a hobby and I really want good video on my next camera and I want to be able to keep it for a while


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Aug 18, 2016 10:13 |  #2

sony costs a lot of money

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sony is building mostly FF lenses these days, dont expect new friendly cheap APS glass, but expensive large FF glass. If you can live with the existing lineup, then great.
Automation vs joystick control. Going back to Dpad essentially. The 7Dii has a joystick, 6D is full frame and will still produce better shots for landscapes and portraits.
Battery life may be shocking to those that expect uber battery life.

video is good for sure, 4K, MUCH better than 1080.


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Aug 18, 2016 11:44 |  #3

Since you mention significance of UI to yourself...

Sony has been critiqued for its UI...it is, after all, a 'consumer electronics' company that offers some still cameras, and it is not a 'photographic equipment' company that designs its products for professional industry users and for amateurs.

"The Sony A7R has terrific hardware features but as with its siblings, Sony falls short in offering total system usability out of the box: no-nonsense non-confusing usability. Instead, complexity and no thought given to the overall experience unless the user deeply engages to essentially reprogram all the buttons to bypass the issues.

"Sometimes dedicated buttons are the answer, and here the A7R falls a little short, relying instead on buttons that o0ften lead to menus rather than simple toggles (several keypresses to get anything done). "

http://diglloyd.com …rame/A7R-menu-system.html (external link)

"a6300 menu system

"It’s no secret that Sony’s in-camera menus are disliked by the majority of its users. Sony cameras have a steep learning curve as the menu layout is so convoluted and needlessly complex.
There’s really no way to sugarcoat this; Sony needs to go back to the drawing board and reexamine its menu system across its entire camera lineup.

"That all said, after about a week of using the a6300, I began to feel more comfortable navigating the menu system. If you can can get past the initial shock of using such a ludicrously complex system, then it might very well grow on you."

https://9to5mac.com …e-photography-supplement/ (external link)

"Sony’s bloated camera menu
"A common complaint among Sony shooters, that I have to agree with, is that the camera menu is very difficult to navigate. It truly seems like Sony outfitted the a6300 with so many features, and tried to stuff them all into a menu, that it can take weeks for new Sony shooters to get used to using the camera.

"This could be easily solved if Sony allowed users to customize the menu a bit more, so that frequently-used features can be quickly accessed. As it stands, Sony only allows assigning custom functions to the camera’s physical buttons, and there aren’t nearly enough of those."

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Aug 18, 2016 12:07 |  #4

do it, i left Canon and never looked back, i don't think the menu is an issue, just different.


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Aug 18, 2016 12:49 |  #5

im half sony half canon. I use canon at the tele end as they have the glass and camera bodies to focus wildlife and sports but everything else the sony wins for me hands down for travel, street, landscape and portrait.


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Aug 18, 2016 13:02 |  #6

Thank you for input.


Can you guys give me an example of how expensive lenses are and what are some of the lenses that are well popular??


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Aug 18, 2016 13:02 |  #7

is the a6300 one of the sony's that has the lossy RAW compression? Deal breaker for me.


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Aug 18, 2016 13:24 |  #8

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #18099189 (external link)
is the a6300 one of the sony's that has the lossy RAW compression? Deal breaker for me.

nope.


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Aug 18, 2016 13:25 |  #9

PJmak wrote in post #18099188 (external link)
Thank you for input.


Can you guys give me an example of how expensive lenses are and what are some of the lenses that are well popular??

55mm 1.8(2nd sharpest lens behind the otus) is around 600 quid


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Aug 18, 2016 13:38 |  #10

I had the a6000.. didn't like it..

Current ly trying to talk myself out of getting a sony a7sii


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Aug 18, 2016 14:24 |  #11

A6300 does have amazing 4k video but has the worst rolling shutter ever. Get a Tripod if you plan to do any video work. Also Sony lenses are heavily overpriced.


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Aug 18, 2016 15:07 |  #12

Here's a good article comparing it to the 80D:

https://m.dpreview.com …pha-6300-vs-canon-eos-80d (external link)




  
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Aug 18, 2016 15:09 |  #13

jonneymendoza wrote in post #18099204 (external link)
nope.

so have they fixed it since february, or is this article wrong?

http://bestmirrorlessb​logs.com …6300-vs-a7-ii-comparison/ (external link)

edit: imaging-resource has this to say

"Be aware that the Sony A6300 cannot capture highest quality "Extra Fine" JPEGs together with RAW files, dropping to "Fine" quality JPEGs when shooting RAW+JPEG. (The A6000 didn't have an Extra Fine option.) Also note that unlike the A6000, the Sony A6300's normal single-shot RAW files are now 14 bits (however RawDigger histograms indicate they are effectively 13 bits due to Sony's lossy compression scheme), but like other 14-bit Sony models, the A6300 drops to 12 bits in burst modes (and during Silent Shooting, Bulb mode or when Long Exposure NR is applied)."

http://www.imaging-resource.com …ny-a6300/sony-a6300A6.HTM (external link)

not compressed, just 12 bits. Robbing peter to pay paul.


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Aug 18, 2016 15:32 |  #14

PJmak wrote in post #18099026 (external link)
I am very interested in a sony a6300 and from what I've seen its very good and light years ahead of anything I owned.

Just exactly how is it 'light years ahead'?


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Aug 18, 2016 15:55 |  #15

saea501 wrote in post #18099296 (external link)
Just exactly how is it 'light years ahead'?


I had a canon xsi and a canon 60D.


Although my 60D was really good as far as image quality goes, the ISO performance and video quality are not comparable at all.


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