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Aug 22, 2016 01:22 |  #31

Maybe you can do it in Spanish :)


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Aug 22, 2016 07:11 |  #32

Tigerkn wrote in post #18102385 (external link)
Maybe you can do it in Spanish :)

Whatever works for you. :)


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Aug 22, 2016 09:58 |  #33

Put in your contract that you do not shoot weddings that do not also have a wedding coordinator.


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Aug 22, 2016 10:12 |  #34

AltgnJoey wrote in post #18102577 (external link)
Put in your contract that you do not shoot weddings that do not also have a wedding coordinator.

Back in the day when I did weddings, I always went over the plan for the event with the couple, and strongly advised them to leave time for things. I told them it was their day and to leave time so they could enjoy it. Most heeded this advice. The exception was this stubborn bride who insisted she did not want any guest to arrive at the church after she did. It was so important to her, she decided to be 10 min late deliberately. Very foolish, because she actually ended up being a half-hour late. I can tell you things were getting verrrrry tense in the church. When they finally went down the aisle, they practically ran, so the aisle pics were crummy.

And a note about a "wedding coordinator" - a good friend advised me early on to appoint the Best Man as a kind of coordinator. My friend suggested that the best man knew everybody and had status, and was therefore in an excellent position to locate people for the group shots, etc. I followed this advice and it worked very well.


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Aug 22, 2016 11:04 |  #35

these look so fantastic!!

the logistics of a wedding day can be incredibly troublesome. but your talent speaks wonders!




  
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Aug 22, 2016 15:13 |  #36

It looks like you did a great job, especially for your first!


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Aug 22, 2016 19:44 |  #37

I think the quality of your work is very good.
In my experience with weddings, almost every single one, never goes according to plan. How about when there is no wedding planner or oven some kind of plan? OMG, some of these people look at you like you have 5 heads, so use one. They expect you to be their wedding planner and photographer because you have experience. Which is fine but I would consider this not my responsibility if it was not discussed from the get go..

From what i understand, it was all on them if things didn't happen, so I'm assuming they will not question the missing pics or the sunset pics have no sunset because their timing was an issue. I'm not sure what was discussed in the contract or even of there was one but, if there was a time that was discussed they should have known that their photographer is on the clock from time A and punches out on time B. I agree 100% of what was mentioned of OT comes along. 18hrs I just ridiculous! And you were their transportation as well? Oh my lord!!!

I say don't beat yourself over it if it was not your fault. I have dealt with a bridezilla that made me feel like 2 cents, i wanted to quit when I was doing a job for my friends photo company. She did not want to cooperate with me and told my friend that I didn't know what I was doing and that the pics were coming out horrible. Mind you, she is saying this while I'm taking them and trying to pose her and what not.. Her attitude was very childish stuck up brat.. There is more to the story to why she was a super B, that had 0 to do with me, but it seemed I was her anger release puppet... After all the BS she put me though, she ended up loving the pics and wanted me to cover her baby shower in the coming months. I gladly declined... Here I am still doing weddings and events here and there...

If you decide to do more of these, you will definitely face many challenges, which is nothing out of the norm. The one thing you need is to be very clear from the beginning, way before the wedding day. You need to know where she stands and she needs to know where you stand and what you can do in her given situation..

Sorry for the testament..
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Aug 27, 2016 10:59 |  #38

I submitted these as sneak-peaks and she was thrilled!


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Aug 27, 2016 11:36 |  #39

Bummer about the long day. Start your coverage when the bride is almost finished getting ready instead of getting there 2 hours early and waiting around.

Yes, weddings often do go longer than planned, but make sure your fee structure takes that into account. Is 12 hours your longest package? Then charge much more per hour after that. Let's say you charge $2400 for a 12 hour day ($200/hour), then charge $300 or $400 per hour after that. Or if there is a demand for 16 hour weddings in your area, then use a second shooter and split the day's coverage.

As for the images, I would try to stage some of these more. For example, in #2, I'd have the MUA move her left hand so you can get the bride's entire face. In #3, I'd have the bride stop either in the sun or in the shadow entirely, not in between. The shadow on her face isn't pleasing to the eye. For #6, I'd get the couple to freeze the kiss with their lips touching and make sure the rest of the party is all visible to the camera and they are all looking at the couple with their eyes wide open.

But regardless of how you did, this was a great learning experience for you. I believe that you're on your way to becoming a great wedding photog, if that's what you want to do. And to get there, you need to make mistakes so that you can learn. I've been doing wedding photography casually for about 5 years now and I'm still making mistakes and learning from them.




  
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Sep 13, 2016 10:22 |  #40

agrandexpression wrote in post #18100024 (external link)
If my first wedding photos turned out this nice...I'd be beyond thrilled.

Managing the day is the most diffcult part of weddings.

If I got a couple dozen images this nice through a wedding, I'd be happy. I'm just looking at a few hand-picked photos here and see there's about 6 good ones at least. So I can at least say I like those 6 and the color looks pretty good too.

The ring shot and the 6th one would be my favorites.


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Sep 14, 2016 16:39 |  #41

Archibald wrote in post #18102384 (external link)
I don't think we're allowed to call you crazy on POTN.


You can call him crazy. That is the way the rolls *LOL*


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Sep 14, 2016 17:14 |  #42

Crazy Ed, did you just called me crazy :) - Hope all things are going great with you Boss!!!


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Sep 14, 2016 17:17 |  #43

I am trying to figure out how you agreed to 8 and then worked 18 hours?

It is shooting from 6 am to 12am?

You definitely need to get a grip on your contract and time line. Chalk this one up to a learning experience. Looks like you did the best you could with what you had.

I would not have done #6. You were really limited on space.

Hang in there .. It gets easier and this will not be your last learning experience *LOL*


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Sep 14, 2016 17:19 |  #44

^^^ What Ed said!


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Sep 14, 2016 17:31 |  #45

I was supposed to take several hours break in the middle of the day, but then the bride moved the salon time from 9am to 6am, and they were severely delayed there several hours which meant it would have pointless to drive back to my home in NJ to then drive to the Hotel risking bad traffic. So I stayed and was basically on hand the rest of the time because they were also delayed with makeup and dressing everyone at the hotel, which I was also supposed to have a break before the ceremony. So instead of 9-11 and 4-10 it ended up 6am-11pm and I got home at midnight


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