Canon 5D Mark IV -- Time to Discuss!

rantercsr wrote in post #18106601
For video its ok if yourr doing a clip here and there but not really..

How is that? I'd love to hear your reasoning.

Just wonder when will Canon release 5DSR2

well I wonder if Canon should have released the 5Dr as a medium format camera.

it seems out of place now.

Introducing the Still Features of the Canon EOS 5D Mark IV
This is by Rudy Winston and it's 15mins long.

Introducing the Video Features of the Canon EOS 5D Mark IV by Brent Ramsey
Again this is 15mins long

Includes some low light examples.

frankchn wrote in post #18106657
No, it is a 1.33-crop horizontally (5472 / 4096) and a 1.7-crop vertically (3648 / 2160), using the same pixel-level read out in the 5D Mark IV sensor. The crop is simply less severe than the 5D4's crop because of the lower density sensor.

The only real technological advantage of the 1DX Mark II over the 5D Mark IV in video mode (aside from the different crop due to the difference in sensor density) is the ability to do 4Kp60.

it could also be that the readout of the physical sensor may need a more intense processor which the 1Dxii has. Just speculating, since the sony A7rii vs A7sii has a similar issue. The full frame mode of the A7rii has pixel binning/skipping, which makes noise performance no better than crop mode with full readout. While you may not get the noise properties of full frame, you still get DOF and FOV aspect in FF mode. It needs to be noted that binning is used and it reduces quality a small amount. Still better than 1080 by quite a margin.

liking the improved AF system and ISO sensitivity thx for that vis sipowicz

The 80D has exposure compensation during auto ISO in manual mode = 5D4 will for sure have it.

Another feature they should of given the 5d3 in a firmware upgrade but NOOOoooo they kept it to the 1Dx when later 7D2 and 80D both get it...../facepalm

They forced an upgrade... Kuddos to you canon for winning again and for me to fall into a statistic.

For anyone thinking of drinking the Canon 5D mark iv “cool aide”…

FYI-
Tony Northup’s interesting & objective summary PREVIEW of the Canon 5D mk iv:
https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=quwAvqcbLRw (34:33 minute video)

Overall the Canon 5D mk iv seems like a great general purpose camera, but…

[I kept hoping for Canon in 2012 with the 5Dmkiii for better IQ & dynamic range (however I still bought two) and now again in 2016 5D mk iv have reluctance due to relative image quality, compared to other manufacturers’/competi​tion products; have to wait for the image reviews (pictures/images are worth a thousand words)
since Image Quality is paramount criteria for me for market differentiation in my applications. Will see what Photokina Sept 20, 2016 brings (pending any Nikon D810 replacements, or a closer look at the D5), my enduring faith/trust/hope for Canon, now finally frustrated to the point of me likely, finally returning to the dark-side after 9 years with Canon, at least for portrait applications)]. Canon’s business model and value-equation and mine are increasingly incompatible.

Party on everyone. (I’m likely going to sit this dance out).

Just one view…

Mary

I found this very interesting myself.https://www.facebook.c​om/jeffascoughpictures​/?fref=nf

Pretty simple really. Buy it if you like it, want it and can afford it, don't buy it if you don't like what it offers. I will be buying one and I won't be complaining about it.

If the camera manufacturers added everything that everyone wanted the camera would need to be as big as house.

gjl711 wrote in post #18106442
From what I understand, it's because they went from the magnesium body to a poly-carbonate body.

Looks like it's still magnesium: http://www.canon.co.uk …5d-mark-iv/build-quality/

sploo wrote in post #18106067
If Wex in the UK will honour their 5D3 trade in price once the 5D4 ships (I've preordered, and they say their quotes are valid for 30 days) then I should get about £450 less than I paid for it, about 3 years ago. I guess that'll take some the pain off the astronomical UK price for the 5D4.

I keep looking at the price and for £1500 more you get the all singing all dancing MK11

Looks great but here in €uro land it will cost 4k Only big issue I see is shooting 30MP files at 7fps without a CFast card, completely lost the plot not having a CFast slot IMO, anoth marketing descision I suppose? As much as I would like to buy it I cannot for the moment.