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Aug 30, 2016 11:58 |  #616

I guess. Lots of options these days. I'm just happy that someone my it easy for me to capture my kids moments. Canon builds simple cameras so you can concentrate on the image.


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Aug 30, 2016 12:09 |  #617

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It's the same elitist snobbery you see everwhere in this day and age

I believe the phenomenon can be similar to the flashy car owner said to be "driving his p3nis"...their 'identity' sometimes seems to come from these things?!


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Aug 30, 2016 12:31 as a reply to  @ Wilt's post |  #618

Putting Image Microadjust to the test on the Canon 5D Mark IV ; comparison between Micro-Adjustements and Dual Pixel

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Aug 30, 2016 12:36 |  #619

The groundbreaking new technology to make your images blurry?




  
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Aug 30, 2016 12:43 |  #620

I don't think until we get the camera in hands with all sorts of various lenses/subjects/camera distance to subject situation that we will know what the outcome will actually be.

Great review. It does provide some tweaking. For some this may be worth it for others it may not be. It's NEW technology and the fact that Canon will improve on it with future cameras will be very promising.

AND if Adobe adds a couple sliders to the Lightroom devolop tab for microadjust focus and bokeh so you just import then slide to tweak then it'll be helpful.


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Aug 30, 2016 13:21 |  #621

Canon marketing at it's finest with the 5D Mark IV looking at the ISO Chart on dpreview, The Original 1DX looks slightly cleaner than the 5D Mark IV and 5D Mark III only being slightly worst than the IV. I know it's 30 megapixels but man what a disappointment. Was expecting it to be on par with the 1DX Mark II as usual but not the case at all.

I will get a 1DX for sure now, I could care less for 30mp and highly compressed 4k video. Only thing interesting is Dual Pixel RAW otherwise a very minor upgrade and I think people should look at other options like the 5DsR, 1DX area.


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Aug 30, 2016 13:30 |  #622

DJHaze596 wrote in post #18111468 (external link)
Canon marketing at it's finest with the 5D Mark IV looking at the ISO Chart on dpreview, The Original 1DX looks slightly cleaner than the 5D Mark IV and 5D Mark III only being slightly worst than the IV. I know it's 30 megapixels but man what a disappointment. Was expecting it to be on par with the 1DX Mark II as usual but not the case at all.

I will get a 1DX for sure now, I could care less for 30mp and highly compressed 4k video. Only thing interesting is Dual Pixel RAW otherwise a very minor upgrade and I think people should look at other options like the 5DsR, 1DX area.

So you expected a 30mp sensor to be as clean as a 20mp sensor of the same generation?


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Aug 30, 2016 13:37 |  #623

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So you expected a 30mp sensor to be as clean as a 20mp sensor of the same generation?

Yes actually but fully understand why it isnt. Not trying to bash it. Just giving my opinion like everyone else. The original 1DX is the best you can get right now and the 5D Mark iii being the cheapest all arounder right now. I think its silly to upgrade unless you are a pro making a living off of photography. 1DX II & 5D IV are simply minor upgrades not worth the price difference. Invest in better glass.


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Aug 30, 2016 13:47 as a reply to  @ DJHaze596's post |  #624

History has already had cases of 'more megapixels' does not provide better signal/noise vs. its predecessors. Canon 50D and 60D were more megapixels, many folks (including me) continued to shoot Canon 40D because we didn't like the tradeoff.


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Aug 30, 2016 13:49 |  #625

DJHaze596 wrote in post #18111482 (external link)
Yes actually but fully understand why it isnt. Not trying to bash it. Just giving my opinion like everyone else. The original 1DX is the best you can get right now and the 5D Mark iii being the cheapest all arounder right now. I think its silly to upgrade unless you are a pro making a living off of photography. 1DX II & 5D IV are simply minor upgrades not worth the price difference. Invest in better glass.

I wouldn't upgrade if I had a 5D3 or 1DX but I am not a pro either and I am coming from a 7D so a jump now is going to be big. And the dual pixel focusing for me is big for video even if I never go past 1080P. I don't aspire to be an awesome videographer like I do in being a stills photog, so if I can only carry one camera to grab an occasional video and it can auto focus, I like that.


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Aug 30, 2016 13:51 |  #626

Wilt wrote in post #18111487 (external link)
History has already had cases of 'more megapixels' does not provide better signal/noise vs. its predecessors. Canon 50D and 60D were more megapixels, many folks (including me) continued to shoot Canon 40D because we didn't like the tradeoff.

In the same generation and brand of sensor?


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Aug 30, 2016 13:59 |  #627

i just want a camera that can nail focus, has great iq, and can at least let me shoot at 12,000 ISO and come away with a clean file. Megapixels, whatever, the more the merrier I say why not.

I really want too see what the 5d4 can do in the af side of things.


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Aug 30, 2016 14:18 |  #628

DJHaze596 wrote in post #18111468 (external link)
Canon marketing at it's finest with the 5D Mark IV looking at the ISO Chart on dpreview, The Original 1DX looks slightly cleaner than the 5D Mark IV and 5D Mark III only being slightly worst than the IV. I know it's 30 megapixels but man what a disappointment. Was expecting it to be on par with the 1DX Mark II as usual but not the case at all.

I will get a 1DX for sure now, I could care less for 30mp and highly compressed 4k video. Only thing interesting is Dual Pixel RAW otherwise a very minor upgrade and I think people should look at other options like the 5DsR, 1DX area.


As an owner of the 1Dx2, who knows what this sensor technology can and will do, I can assure you that you have no clue what you are talking about. I also own a 5D3, a 7D2 and have used a 1Dx1 and every body since the 20D

This is the best sensor that canon has ever produced. It does everything well on the 1Dx2. Can only assume at this point that it will be close with the 5D4

Really, you should not speculate until you have used the technology. I know great experienced pros who have had the 5D4 in their hands. There word and reputations are solid.

1Dx2 is a full stop better than the 1Dx1..probably 1 1/3 stops to my eyes. Darks,shadows,DR, Noise, color,skin tones, any place you can test it at are amazing.........Far from marketing from Canon....It is the real deal......The new sensors Kick Butt

Sorry sir.. you are dead wrong with your assessment.


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Aug 30, 2016 14:34 |  #629

umphotography wrote in post #18111533 (external link)
As an owner of the 1Dx2, who knows what this sensor technology can and will do, I can assure you that you have no clue what you are talking about. I also own a 5D3, a 7D2 and have used a 1Dx1 and every body since the 20D

This is the best sensor that canon has ever produced. It does everything well on the 1Dx2. Can only assume at this point that it will be close with the 5D4

Really, you should not speculate until you have used the technology. I know great experienced pros who have had the 5D4 in their hands. There word and reputations are solid.

1Dx2 is a full stop better than the 1Dx1..probably 1 1/3 stops to my eyes. Darks,shadows,DR, Noise, color,skin tones, any place you can test it at are amazing.........Far from marketing from Canon....It is the real deal......The new sensors Kick Butt

Sorry sir.. you are dead wrong with your assessment.

it was posted a few pages back, the dpreview studio scene.

at high iso, the 1Dx vs 1Dxii are fairly similar @ 25600

The 1Dxii doesnt touch the 1Dx at a stop higher ISO, ever.


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Aug 30, 2016 14:43 |  #630

DJHaze596 wrote in post #18111482 (external link)
The original 1DX is the best you can get right now ....... 1DX II & 5D IV are simply minor upgrades not worth the price difference.

These 2 sentences really tickled me............


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