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Canon 5D Mark IV -- Time to Discuss!

 
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Aug 31, 2016 17:27 |  #796

umphotography wrote in post #18112865 (external link)
Yeah--everyone said that at the 2012 release as well. Then Sony released in 2013 :-P:-P:-P

Canon is in a good place

Technology always changes. I would not count anyone out. Enjoy it while you can. Nikon did not get big by accident

Something will come along and all the gear heads will be laughing at canons demise

technology is so advanced that you have to ask yourself now...why do I need that.

All that has happened with the 2016 updates is that 25000 ISO is the new standard, dark and shadow retention has been fixed on Canon sensors.

Who knows whats gonna happen in the next 3 yrs

besides...The D5...a Nikon...has everyone beat

D5 has poor DR though


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Aug 31, 2016 17:37 |  #797

That's what I keep telling myself to justify not upgrading my D4 :lol:


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Aug 31, 2016 17:38 |  #798

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Thats not true. Nikon makes some really fine glass. I really dislike the ergonomics but I have a few Nikon friends/acquaintances that produce really amazing images using Nikon equipment. My WHOLE take on this entire release is the fact that Canon is now producing sensors that level the playing field. Sony, Canon, Nikon, Fuji... all can create amazing images. The glass... all make really amazing glass. The field is leveled out now.

Seriously what I'm seeing is the "wow" factor that makes the difference for the normal consumer that is paying for photos comes down to the photographers ability to photoshop/edit more than the gear being the limiting factor. I've seen many examples HERE and on FM where rebel equivalent equipment was used but they were extremely good with Photoshop and their images really were amazing. Very little photography today is SOOC unless you are talking to pros doing motorsports or field sports of some sort that upload immediately or are at events selling images something like that.

Out of anything the 5D3 couldn't offer me that I really wanted was a simple thing... Anti-Flicker. I shoot my sons games and once the stadium lights turn on and sun goes down even though I could be in the ISO 6400 I could not for the life of me have a higher shutter without yellow banding occurring.

It's been a long wait... but Canon has finally put in all the extra features I remember everyone 4.5yrs ago complaining the 5D3 didn't have. It's truly a great ending to this year. I also still respect Sony/Nikon/Fuji/Olympu​s/Panasonic/etc. for producing amazing cameras and driving each other to deliver a better product. I now benefit from it. I just happen to choose Canon. So be it.

Agreed.

The a7Rii and Nikon D810 produce incredible quality images. The D500 is hugely impressive. Canon's 1Dx2 and Nikon's D5 are utter monsters. Every Canon lens release since (and including) the 24-70II that I can recall (certainly all L series models) have been utterly superb, and Canon finally seems to be catching up in the DR stakes.

Sure, there are limitations and annoyances with all cameras (I know Sony and Nikon shooters with a list of gripes about their gear - just as we complain about Canon). Point is: there's a lot of great gear out there right now.

jonneymendoza wrote in post #18112901 (external link)
D5 has poor DR though

It does suffer a bit for low ISO DR, but for a fast/sports/action body the high ISO results and focusing performance is the bigger factor (two areas in which it excels).


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Aug 31, 2016 19:01 |  #799

Wow, those .dng files work amazingly. Even in a very low end RAW converter (ACDSee)


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Aug 31, 2016 19:22 |  #800

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Sorry man... I feel compelled to report you to your employer.

Jealousy will be the motivator as I am in Australia and I am tipping you dudes will get it before us.

Mine should be shipped from Sydney on Friday 9th Sept. unless I drive down and pick it up (still hesitating about that).


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Aug 31, 2016 19:26 |  #801

Talley wrote in post #18112697 (external link)
https://www.dpreview.c​om …provements-to-the-5d-line (external link)

DPReview just posted the dynamic range and pushing the shadows. Specifically says BETTER than 1dxII. Knocking at the Sony A7RII.

This is a dramatic difference than the MK3 and a welcomed improvement. Again... I don't see whats not to like with this camera.

Thanks for posting, was an interesting read. The part I found most interesting was when it said "You're unlikely to notice these differences from ISO 400 upward, but below ISO 400, the 5D Mark IV, while competitive, does fall slightly behind in performance." in relation to the D810 and D750. It sounds like Canon have done an amazing job on this sensor.

I think you could easily do a 3 stop push on this sensor without any worry at all, then doing 5 stop push my require some touching up but still doable. This makes me so excited for the 6D2. The anti Canon fanboys on other sites can hate all they want, but in terms of Canon sensors this is huge.


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Aug 31, 2016 19:26 |  #802

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Mine should be shipped from Sydney on Friday 9th Sept. unless I drive down and pick it up (still hesitating about that).

Did you buy from Digidirect? They seem to have one of the best prices.


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Aug 31, 2016 19:28 |  #803

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18112988 (external link)
Wow, those .dng files work amazingly. Even in a very low end RAW converter (ACDSee)

I just opened them in LR with my default import settings which include a moderate amount of NR. Even the ISO 102,400 shot full screen at 1440p 27" (17" x 11.5") looks surprisingly good. Yes, there's noise, but its also underexposed and even then the skin color looks much better than I'd get from the 5D3.




  
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Aug 31, 2016 19:28 |  #804

I got my 24-70 II today and I am shocked it is still so heavy. I don't know what I was hoping for. Nothing really to complain about, but I haven't gotten it out on the road yet. I hope to be very happy with the 24-70 on the new 5DIV.

Canon glass is very expensive, maybe not as expensive compared to N*kon. My friends who have the D800 or D810 love their FF combo with their 24-70 versions. The images they produce are truly beautiful. I don't have any desire to put down my 7D2/70-200 2.8 IS II combo ever. But I don't use that for most events and casual use. So, I'm hoping the new combo will WOW me enough that I will get back into the game again. I've been using my iPhone a lot lately, and the images are great. I just love doing more.


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Aug 31, 2016 19:29 |  #805

I want to look into buying the flash someone above mentioned. I don't like that Canon charges so much for their flashes. I think it's awful.


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Aug 31, 2016 19:30 |  #806

Dlee13 wrote in post #18113018 (external link)
Did you buy from Digidirect? They seem to have one of the best prices.

No, from Georges Cameras ($4998) . Been buying there for a number of years and always good deals. Noticed Digidirect is $10 less - well, can live with that difference... :)


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Aug 31, 2016 19:33 |  #807

SuzyView wrote in post #18113021 (external link)
I got my 24-70 II today and I am shocked it is still so heavy. I don't know what I was hoping for. Nothing really to complain about, but I haven't gotten it out on the road yet. I hope to be very happy with the 24-70 on the new 5DIV.

I went from a 24-105 to a 24-70 f/2.8 II and hardly notice the difference. You'll get used to it.




  
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Aug 31, 2016 19:39 |  #808

SuzyView wrote in post #18113024 (external link)
I want to look into buying the flash someone above mentioned. I don't like that Canon charges so much for their flashes. I think it's awful.

Check out the Yongnuo YN685, such a great flash for the price.

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No, from Georges Cameras ($4998) . Been buying there for a number of years and always good deals. Noticed Digidirect is $10 less - well, can live with that difference... :)

Man I can't wait to live in Sydney, they have such good camera and PC stores.


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Aug 31, 2016 19:40 |  #809

vk2gwk wrote in post #18113012 (external link)
Mine should be shipped from Sydney on Friday 9th Sept. unless I drive down and pick it up (still hesitating about that).

mine's should be with me around that time too :D (digi direct brisbane)


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Aug 31, 2016 19:45 |  #810

had a play with the dng files they're nice, the ISO 5000 selfie shot i felt no need to apply NR the noise character is really nice


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