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Aug 31, 2016 19:58 as a reply to  @ post 18113028 |  #811

I have the 24-70 I, just upgraded. I am used to the weight, was surprised, for some reason, I forgot the new lens need a 82mm filter. I will order one today. I just put a B+W clear on my lenses because a few months ago, someone (it could have been me), put the camera bag down a little hard and the filter cracked, the lens was fine. Three years ago, my son dropped my bag and cracked the filter and I could not take it off the lens, had to send it to Canon. They fixed the front ring good as new. I don't totally baby my gear, but it's nice not to have an expensive repair.


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Aug 31, 2016 20:01 |  #812

SuzyView wrote in post #18113054 (external link)
I have the 24-70 I, just upgraded. I am used to the weight, was surprised, for some reason, I forgot the new lens need a 82mm filter. I will order one today. I just put a B+W clear on my lenses because a few months ago, someone (it could have been me), put the camera bag down a little hard and the filter cracked, the lens was fine. Three years ago, my son dropped my bag and cracked the filter and I could not take it off the lens, had to send it to Canon. They fixed the front ring good as new. I don't totally baby my gear, but it's nice not to have an expensive repair.

So what you are saying is if you didn't have a protective lens filter on, nothing would have been damaged? :-P


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Aug 31, 2016 20:09 |  #813

Protective filters? Sheesh I barely even put a lense cap on now unless I am removing the hood to save space. Honestly, I came to the conclusion I am at a greater risk of losing a lense somewhere or having my bag stolen. I'll just use the stuff while it works and deal with it later.


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Aug 31, 2016 20:11 as a reply to  @ FEChariot's post |  #814

Well, you could put it that way. I was opposed to filters for a long time, but I have sons who use my equipment and I cannot imagine not having a very good strap and a filter on my camera lenses. If I could put bubble wrap on my cameras, I would, but my hands are too small. :)


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Aug 31, 2016 20:16 |  #815

I had my 24-70ii ruined due to sea salt spray, one outing and the coatings disintegrated, I have since gotten a replacement


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Aug 31, 2016 20:36 |  #816

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Not without the majority of the vote. Voting. You know that thing we do after beating the UK in the war. That thing you adopted from us with the whole parliament thing.  :p

Your 'majority' tops out at 300M.. ;-)a


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Aug 31, 2016 20:37 |  #817

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Sorry man... I feel compelled to report you to your employer.

Jealousy will be the motivator as I am in Australia and I am tipping you dudes will get it before us.

Not necessarily - I believe I was the first on this forum with the EOS-1D X Mark II, so...


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Aug 31, 2016 21:21 |  #818

That 12,800 file is decent for being underexposed by about 2.2 stops by my taste. shadows seem unaffected by the increase. I have a concern w/ the purple digital noise at the very extreme tip of the image at the bottom right. It's there also in the higher ISO image. At least it's at the tip that can be cropped slightly. some purple going on in the blacks when pushed too far. kind of expected at that 12.8k ISO though.

Gotta get a better exposed image to work with tho.


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Aug 31, 2016 21:39 |  #819

Without a doubt the 200 F2 will be the first to mount to my 5D4. Anyone else plan their first shot?


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Aug 31, 2016 21:47 |  #820

cwphoto wrote in post #18113083 (external link)
Your 'majority' tops out at 300M.. ;-)a

How many native English speakers do you think there are?


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Aug 31, 2016 21:49 |  #821

DPReview finally has the 5D3 up on the ISO invariance page. Seems to me about 3 stops improvement with the 5D4 vs the 5D3 @ 6400. Even picking the 5D3 with 1600 + 2 stops vs the 5D4 ISO 200 + 5 stops the 5D4 is looking better still.


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Aug 31, 2016 21:49 |  #822

Talley wrote in post #18113128 (external link)
That 12,800 file is decent for being underexposed by about 2.2 stops by my taste. shadows seem unaffected by the increase. I have a concern w/ the purple digital noise at the very extreme tip of the image at the bottom right. It's there also in the higher ISO image. At least it's at the tip that can be cropped slightly. some purple going on in the blacks when pushed too far. kind of expected at that 12.8k ISO though.

Gotta get a better exposed image to work with tho.

Is underexposure Fro's style? Three of the 3 images posted are on the dark side and could have been exposed more in-camera. Or was he intentionally underexposing to see how they held up to pushing the exposure in LR? I too would like to see some well exposed high ISO samples.




  
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Aug 31, 2016 21:52 |  #823

The only samples I have at 102,400 are with the 6D I had and I intentionally ETTR with the image and brought the exposure down by almost a full stop. I compared that image to Fro image and frankly the 6D did much better but I'm guessing that it was due to the proper exposing technique for higher ISO.


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Aug 31, 2016 21:56 |  #824

welshwizard1971 wrote in post #18112827 (external link)
Hmmm, just downloaded those and had a play, an improvement over the mkIII no doubt, there's no way I could do that with my mine............

Wow, I actually can take that 102400 and really clean it up to the point I could easily print that as an 8x10.


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Aug 31, 2016 22:04 |  #825

Talley wrote in post #18113153 (external link)
DPReview finally has the 5D3 up on the ISO invariance page. Seems to me about 3 stops improvement with the 5D4 vs the 5D3 @ 6400. Even picking the 5D3 with 1600 + 2 stops vs the 5D4 ISO 200 + 5 stops the 5D4 is looking better still.

just tried to go to their page, and it's not loading. Are all the potential 5D4 owners flooding over to check on it? haha. I know i am :)


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