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JM45ACP wrote in post #18109175
I thought this feature was only on the civilian version of firearms and for law enforcement it's absent so the officer could drop the mag in certain situations and render the gun inoperative like if they feel the firearm might be taken. I thought I heard (don't quote me on this) that in some states police cant have this feature for the reasons stated above. When I bought my M&P they asked me if I wanted it with or with out it I bought it with it.
John

By no means do I have knowledge of every LE agencies policy, but I can't imagine one that issues (or allows officers to carry) weapons that won't fire without the magazine in. I would never allow it, or carry one myself. Also, it's highly unlikely that someone would be able to drop the magazine if they thought the perp was about to win a wrestling match over their gun.

Ronald S. Jr. wrote in post #18107175
The ones that seem to do that most often are police officers.

I'd be the first to admit that there are way too many cops that aren't safe (or proficient) enough with their duty weapons, but any implication that they commit more AD's than the general public (especially considering the amount of time they spend carrying and manipulating firearms) is just false. It likely seems more prevalent because, when a civilian has an AD that injures (non-fatal) another person, it's a one day news blurb. When a cop injures someone in an AD, it will be front page news, with a weeks worth of follow up stories. Hell, even a proven accidental fatality by a civilian is usually pretty short in the news cycle.

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Jeff Hanson wrote in post #18114032
By no means do I have knowledge of every LE agencies policy, but I can't imagine one that issues (or allows officers to carry) weapons that won't fire without the magazine in. I would never allow it, or carry one myself. Also, it's highly unlikely that someone would be able to drop the magazine if they thought the perp was about to win a wrestling match over their gun.

They were actually pretty common for a while. Pre-M&P Smith and Wesson pistols had magazine disconnects as a standard feature, and I know that both Colorado State Patrol and Illinois State Police issued those for quite some time.

I also think they're a stupid idea, but there you go.

centrarchidae wrote in post #18115000
They were actually pretty common for a while. Pre-M&P Smith and Wesson pistols had magazine disconnects as a standard feature, and I know that both Colorado State Patrol and Illinois State Police issued those for quite some time.

I also think they're a stupid idea, but there you go.

I'm not with the ISP, but I think they stopped issuing the old S&W 9mm DA's by the mid 80's, so a little before my time. When I came on the job in 88, I think Browning Hi-Power was their standard issue. I'm pretty sure those were available with a magazine disconnect, but I don't think the ISP issue had them. Biggest problem that came out of that era for them was the under powered Winchester Silvertip 9mm round they were using.

I could be wrong, but I thought ISP went straight from the S&W 9mm flavor-of-the-month to the Glock 22 in the late 1990's.

I've never heard of the BHP being available from the factory without a magazine disconnect. I wish it were.

YADATROT: FN HP Mk.III, Israeli Police trade-in, a Christmas present to myself last year:
(On the second one, I should probably have focused on the muzzle and let the grip be a little fuzzy instead.)

centrarchidae wrote in post #18115142
I could be wrong, but I thought ISP went straight from the S&W 9mm flavor-of-the-month to the Glock 22 in the late 1990's.

I'm likely wrong about the Browning, and maybe they just changed to a new S&W model in 88. I'm certain that's when they made a change, but not certain about the gun. Long time ago. Do you remember if Hi Power mags were compatible with any of the S&W models they carried? Because I could swear at least one trooper I knew carried 4 or 5 extra Hi Power mags from a personally owned gun in his squad with him. Unfortunately, he died of a heart attack over ten years ago, so I can't confirm it with him.

Jeff Hanson wrote in post #18115519
I'm likely wrong about the Browning, and maybe they just changed to a new S&W model in 88. I'm certain that's when they made a change, but not certain about the gun. Long time ago. Do you remember if Hi Power mags were compatible with any of the S&W models they carried?

I think they carried the S&W 459 for a while, which IIRC (meaning "I think I saw it on Wikipedia once") used magazines that were derived from the BHP. Whether or not they were compatible, I don't know.

The only evidence I've ever seen of an agency in this country carrying the BHP was the FBI HRT when it first started, and Al Pacino in Serpico. Which really only means that I don't actually know anything for sure.

Love it!

But please get your ammo out of my 18 year old Scotch!

They are titanium. Cool drink not water it down

Whats that cigar holster? Pretty cool.

DannyLongIsland wrote in post #18119870
Whats that cigar holster? Pretty cool.

Actually it's the new soft shell scorpion mag holster from gcode.