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Sep 05, 2016 21:06 |  #23461

Good idea about copying the moon.

The sky can be darkened easily in LR (GND). I'll play with that. But thanks for the feedback. I myself liked #1 best, but was unsure if the horizon down the middle would be too distracting (as it can sometimes be).


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Sep 05, 2016 21:16 |  #23462

Puckman wrote in post #18118273 (external link)
Good idea about copying the moon.

The sky can be darkened easily in LR (GND).

Right. The GND is the exact same tool, whether in LR or in the ACR filter. Only difference is when it's used in your processing pipeline.

It is indeed preferrable to do it in LR as the affected sky will be less prone to posterization artifacts because it's still in the raw conversion stage.


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Sep 05, 2016 21:48 |  #23463

David Arbogast wrote in post #18118283 (external link)
Right. The GND is the exact same tool, whether in LR or in the ACR filter. Only difference is when it's used in your processing pipeline.

It is indeed preferrable to do it in LR as the affected sky will be less prone to posterization artifacts because it's still in the raw conversion stage.

I do 99% of my edits in LR. I only go to PS when I need to do something only PS can do (typically, if I want to do some serious cloning that goes beyond LR's clone tool, and or go into external editing tools like Nik but want to maintain the ability to tweak said filter (in which case, I use Nik on a separate layer, as a smart object). But that is all very rare. 99% of my pics are edited in LR exclusively.


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Sep 05, 2016 21:55 |  #23464

Claudia was a bit overwhelmed today in her new play circle thing..

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Sep 05, 2016 22:16 |  #23465

Batis 18mm and 25mm owners: Any vignetting issues with using a thin ring CPL? I'm doing a little scheming right now and want to plan out my budget.

Think I'm going to aim to getting down to just three Canon lenses: TS-E 24L II, 24-70mm f/4L IS, and 70-200mm f/4L IS. The rest I want to sell so I can get the complete Batis kit. Between Nadim, Eddie, and Alfredo I've reached a threshold where I've seen enough to be 100% convinced that those are must-have lenses. Love the color, contrast and sharpness.

I'll probably hate selling my still-new Sigma 20mm the most. It's absolutely awesome and absolutely in my focal-length wheelhouse. But, so is the Batis 18 and 25 - and they are much lighter (easier on the lens mount) and I can minimize needing the adapter.


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Sep 05, 2016 22:22 |  #23466

I've been shooting both the 18 and 25 with a 10 stop ND (and a 16 stop ND today) without any issues whatsoever.
I use a 77-67mm step down ring (for the 25, since it's 67mm).

Have not tried a CPL. I don't use those much.

Here's a shot I JUST finished processing. Fresh off the presses. Literally 5 minutes ago. This one DID go to PS for some fine tuning, because I think it was worth it.
From today's morning trip to LA.
This one should clinch your Batis schemes once and for all, if I do say so myself.

Batis 18/2.8, shot at f11, ISO 50, 10-stop Firecrest ND, for a 20 second exposure.


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Sep 05, 2016 22:35 |  #23467

Puckman wrote in post #18118341 (external link)
Have not tried a CPL. I don't use those much.

Awesome shot...I'm impressed with the good color you got with the Firecrest 16-stop.

Absolutely invaluable for cutting through glare and reflections (seeing through to a stream's rocky bottom, removing the ugly glare off foliage, etc.). Some people wrongly think they are just for darkening skies...that's actually a poor use for a CPL in my opinion. But, a CPL is the only way to kill glare and subdue reflections...it's magic.


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Sep 05, 2016 22:38 |  #23468

David A, I have not used a CPL on the 18 but it shouldn't be an issue. About time you're getting some Batis lenses.  :p




  
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Sep 05, 2016 22:43 |  #23469

digital_AM wrote in post #18118356 (external link)
David A, I have used a CPL on the 18 but it shouldn't be an issue. About time you're getting some Batis lenses.  :p

Sadly it's probably still going to take a long time...got to sell 6 lenses. I'll probably add a Batis as I get things sold.

Batis 85mm will be last, and I might even skip it altogether...I mean what do I of all people really need it for? I don't do portraits and my 70-200mm is quite excellent already.


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Sep 05, 2016 22:47 |  #23470

David Arbogast wrote in post #18118361 (external link)
Sadly it's probably still going to take a long time...got to sell 6 lenses. I'll probably add a Batis as I get things sold.

Batis 85mm will be last, and I might even skip it altogether...I mean what do I of all people really need it for? I don't do portraits and my 70-200mm is quite excellent already.

Typing on my iPhone. Meant to say I have NOT used a CPL on the Batis 18 but have on the 21 without issues.

Are you planning to get the Lox 21 too?




  
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Sep 05, 2016 23:04 |  #23471

I'll get the 85 eventually, but much like you, David, I rarely shoot portraits.


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Sep 05, 2016 23:13 |  #23472

Nadim, I also prefer the first pier shot because it appears better balanced. Both have nice colors by the way.

Nice long exposure image too. Really cool reflection. I would recommend going for an extra long exposure for the sky. Something like 2-4 minutes.




  
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Sep 05, 2016 23:22 |  #23473

digital_AM wrote in post #18118363 (external link)
Are you planning to get the Lox 21 too?

I really need to do more thinking on this. Probably will be a one or the other/not both scenario.


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Sep 05, 2016 23:36 |  #23474

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It's not that tricky really. I shoot in AV and set a minimum SS of 125/s..sometimes will use a longer SS to keep the ISO lower...don't have to worry about SS as much since the flash will stop motion (within certain limits of course). Auto ISO and ETTL. There are times when I'll shoot in manual when I want to adjust the shutter speed for the purposes of manipulating how the ambient light is exposed, but I'm mostly in AV.

The two things I will actively change are the aperture and the direction of the flash based on how I want to shape the light and what kind of walls I have to work with.

I recommend reading Neilv's blog on flash techniques. He's a master of the black foamie thingie.

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thanks I will try that AV technique you have. Yah i got the BFT idea from him. I also bought one of his flash photography video.

been hearing many times about "the flash will freeze the motion" but i really don't understand how is it possible. any theories for that?


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Sep 05, 2016 23:36 |  #23475

bpaulette wrote in post #18118246 (external link)
Sounds like a great seller! I think you'll enjoy it. Super fun specialty lens. I have a blast with mine. Sometimes when I'm feeling like challenging myself, I put that lens on the camera, and bring nothing else with me.

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love it. you made me more excited.

did you put the IBIS setting to 60mm?


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