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Sep 06, 2016 10:03 |  #23521

You either have to pick canon or Nikon mount for the shift convertor. At checkout on the Kickstarter under the list of options it stated this against the shift convertor. So if you have a Sony camera and want the shift adaptor you need to purchase the shift adaptor + canikon mount lens + canikon to e mount adaptor


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Sep 06, 2016 10:10 |  #23522

xpfloyd wrote in post #18118815 (external link)
You either have to pick canon or Nikon mount for the shift convertor. At checkout on the Kickstarter under the list of options it stated this against the shift convertor. So if you have a Sony camera and want the shift adaptor you need to purchase the shift adaptor + canikon mount lens + canikon to e mount adaptor

OK, thanks. I used their "contact us" form to ask the question too so if they say anything different, I'll be sure to let everyone know.

I'm sure you've all already seen these but here are some example images using this lens + converter on Flickr:

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Sep 06, 2016 10:13 |  #23523

the man in blue is making me wait for my 135...driving me nuts...


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Sep 06, 2016 10:14 |  #23524
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this really makes me wonder if they really designed a new optical formula for FE, or did they simply made a longer exterior housing.


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Sep 06, 2016 10:19 |  #23525

lapino wrote in post #18117879 (external link)
Been testing a bit more, and got it reproduced when it happens:
* reset camera
* picture with flash: no delay
* put camera in af-c : noticeable lag
* put back in af-s : issue remains, delay between pressing shutter and flash firing. only way to get it back to normal is a reset!

so guess it goes back :(

Went to the shop, swapped the camera for a new one... Same issue. So I guess it's a "feature" of the a6300. I tested it again next to my a6000 and the flash definitely fires noticeably faster on the a6000. This is really a big bummer to me since the shop won't take it back too. And I use flash a lot for which I need it to react quickly. Really surprised nobody noticed this before. Can't be that I have two faulty cameras, that's just not possible.

Sorry to post about this in this thread, but did not want to start a new thread about this and there seems no dedicated "tech talk" thread for the APSC cameras. Also figures a lot of FF owners have/had an a6300 too.


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Sep 06, 2016 10:21 |  #23526

nekrosoft13 wrote in post #18118825 (external link)
this really makes me wonder if they really designed a new optical formula for FE, or did they simply made a longer exterior housing.

I think you're spot on with your skepticism. Like you, I'm guessing the e-mount version just has a longer exterior housing and they're all otherwise exactly the same optical design. The only advantages in going with the e-mount are (1) convenience and (2) avoiding any potential alignment issues with the adapter.


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Sep 06, 2016 10:38 |  #23527

David Arbogast wrote in post #18118750 (external link)
I just got my survey completed. Mine will also be the e-mount and I got the filter holder as well.

Trying to decide if I should sell or keep my CV 10mm. The CV 10mm is just wonderful - I love it's Zeiss-like microcontrast and beautiful sunstars...not to mention it's a sweet little lens with outstanding handling. But, it's also very much a specialty lens...the 12mm will be overall more useful.

logic vs heart

knowing that ND/CPL work with your setup = golden, that's logic

I guess my closest scenario would be SY 14 + ND throttle, still have that combo, but for the past year CV 12 has been used just a ton more (also takes ND's/CPL's but used 0 times).

Essentially, gonna use the 10 till I regret it, similar to the way I used the 12. Possibly my personal favorite shot this year was with the 10, so there's a ton of bias, nevermind logic :twisted:


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Sep 06, 2016 11:52 |  #23528

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Very curious to see what it looked like before cloning! The result is amazing however!

Id take it for sure :p

i miss the one i sold...


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Sep 06, 2016 12:34 |  #23529

Speaking of CV10, here are few shots with it.

IMAGE: https://photos.smugmug.com/Misc/Cosina-Voigtlander-FE-10mm-f56/i-NtF4B66/0/X2/DSC06724-X2.jpg

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Sep 06, 2016 12:51 |  #23530

lapino wrote in post #18118828 (external link)
Went to the shop, swapped the camera for a new one... Same issue. So I guess it's a "feature" of the a6300. I tested it again next to my a6000 and the flash definitely fires noticeably faster on the a6000. This is really a big bummer to me since the shop won't take it back too. And I use flash a lot for which I need it to react quickly. Really surprised nobody noticed this before. Can't be that I have two faulty cameras, that's just not possible.

Sorry to post about this in this thread, but did not want to start a new thread about this and there seems no dedicated "tech talk" thread for the APSC cameras. Also figures a lot of FF owners have/had an a6300 too.

does it do the slow fire in all modes,av tv manual and auto or program,try those modes,


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Sep 06, 2016 12:51 |  #23531

BAH nothing is working.

2 weeks ago ... go to shoot with Arizona Highways Magazine and it rains.

Leaving for White Sands NM tomorrow...... Hurricane is coming up from the gulf. Going to be camping on an exposed cliff in 30-50 mph winds and 3-5" of rain.

Sigh


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Sep 06, 2016 12:54 |  #23532

joonrhee wrote in post #18118916 (external link)
Speaking of CV10, here are few shots with it.

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Nice Joon. Did you use the smooth reflections app to get those smooth motion-blurred clouds?


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Sep 06, 2016 13:19 as a reply to  @ genesimmons's post |  #23533

Check this, tried to film it. This is in S mode with a 1/160sec shutter speed. You can see me pressing the shutter and flash firing quite a bit later. Like I said, this only seems to happen in PASM modes. When I set the camera to Auto or in one of the scene modes, flash (both internal and external) fire immediately like they should. It seems like (in low light) the a6300 is doing some additional metering before firing off the flash which takes some time. This is something the a6000 does NOT do, but I have no idea which setting it could be. I went over all settings and really cannot find anything that could explain this.

This happens with all lenses, tried the Zeiss 24Z, Zeiss 16-70, SEL50 etc... Always same behaviour. When using the a6000, completely different results and flash fires in an instant. It's very apparent that the camera seems to be doing "something". After acquiring focus and pressing the shutter, the screen darkens a bit and then flash fires and picture is taken. Might be some metering setting but I really cannot begin to find it. Also tried setting ISO to a fixed setting, same results.

This is the 2nd a6300 I try, so it cannot be a fault in the camera.

https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=v-S2NhPNK0U (external link)

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I want to add something else. When changing flash mode to "fill flash", "slow sync" or "rear sync", this does not seem to change anything at all. The flash behaves exactly the same. I always want to add that when setting the AF mode to "wide" the flash seems to fire pretty fast and behaves like it should. But when choosing a different focus mode (center, flexible etc) it starts to slow down. Maybe some setting where the camera meters for the selected AF point causing the delay? In auto mode, focus is also "wide" so that seems consistent.


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Sep 06, 2016 13:29 |  #23534

David Arbogast wrote in post #18118941 (external link)
Nice Joon. Did you use the smooth reflections app to get those smooth motion-blurred clouds?

Yes Sir! that's correct. Thank you David~


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Sep 06, 2016 13:35 as a reply to  @ joonrhee's post |  #23535

Benefit to using the Smooth Reflections app as opposed to just using BULB or doing a 20-30 sec exposure?

edit: just did some reading on it - seems pretty cool. No use of an ND needed. What's the cost?



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