PJJ205 wrote in post #18120118
Literally thousands of people bashing a camera that hasn't even seen the light of day yet. I really don't get that mentality... Don't like it? Don't buy it. Seems pretty simple and straight forward to me... People just feel better about themselves by being arrogant and negative about things that have no real effect on their lives. Completely baffles me.
It is an interesting phenomena, and yet we see it pretty much every time.
In this case it is all the more confusing based on a few specifics to the 5D4 release.
- In all the 5D4 wish list threads in the rumors forum, the requested dreams are in fact less than Canon is offering. Most asked only for a few more pixels, and more DR.
Canon is giving us that, plus faster frame rate, plus 4K, plus 400bits a second, plus improved AF, plus the blessed EC in manual/auto ISO, plus the re-designed AF Zone toggle, Plus GPS, Plus Wifi (I did not expect either) IN A Magnesium body (really did not expect that)
- Most of the belly aching is about the usability of an included feature that literally NO ONE had predicted or foreseen. So by including a new technology that no one else has used before, Canon has somehow angered the masses buy not doing it right? Even though until yesterday we didn't even know what doing right might be? No other camera can do it, so why does it hurt the 5D4 that it can?
The Dual pixel tech may or may not ever be evolved into a useful tool. For macro focus, or for highlight protection, We just don't know. However it's existence is already available in the hardware due to the AF tech that birthed those additional photo-sites. IMHO as long as the photo-sites exist, and the data is available, we might as well do some experimenting with the hardware and data and see what tools we can ring out of it. Better fro Canon to step up and try something with the hardware then leave it to a 3rd party to do so, no?
Raymond DeWalt never imagined that his invention would some day be used for cutting dados, spinning molding heads, or Rip cuts. All of this eventually came from that tool, some of it worked better on the Radial Arm Saw than any other tool (cross cutting Dados) some was almost disastrously dangerous (rip cuts IMHO) but the basic tool was there and adding these features was a no brainer and well, you never know till you try.
Ironically, what the tool was designed for from the get go, cross cutting and miters, it is no longer employed for in the vast majority of trades. (miter saws do it better, cheaper and more reliably)
With the 5D4 at least no one is going to lose a finger while we try it's hardware out in new ways.
Maybe this example shed's some light on why I find this such a weird thing to be debating. In a shop , we are constantly, daily coming up with new and better ways to use or tools for operations that the designer may have never imagined. Cutting tenons or shaping cove molding on a table saw? Cutting circular wheels on a table saw? Using lathes to drill holes, using drill presses to sand inside of curves, or to cut mortises.
To me, pushing tools far outside the box is every day stuff.