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Sep 09, 2016 01:48 |  #31

Synchronized releases wouldn't work as who's to say who gets priority, Canon or Nikon?




  
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Sep 09, 2016 08:07 |  #32

And where is the financial incentive for Canon to work with Adobe and other companies? Who would fund it? Certainly not Canon. Certainly not Adobe. Neither make additional revenue by working together or by adding patches for new camera releases, at least not in the short term.

In today's industry, any effort has to be funded by some party and it has to show some sort of return. In this case, Canon doesn't lose sales by not having LR and other tools support their new raw, and neither does Adobe. So these types of "support" projects happen when they happen.


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Sep 09, 2016 08:24 |  #33

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What I can't understand is why Canon can't get Adobe to work closely with them ahead of time with the right NDAs so that a new LR version is released at the same time as the camera. This kind of stuff happens all the time in the computer industry with drivers, etc. It seems like it would really boost the excitenent among the end users to be able to use their usual programs and generate good data on the camera's performance.

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Sep 09, 2016 08:29 |  #34

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And where is the financial incentive for Canon to work with Adobe and other companies? Who would fund it? Certainly not Canon. Certainly not Adobe. Neither make additional revenue by working together or by adding patches for new camera releases, at least not in the short term.

In today's industry, any effort has to be funded by some party and it has to show some sort of return. In this case, Canon doesn't lose sales by not having LR and other tools support their new raw, and neither does Adobe. So these types of "support" projects happen when they happen.

Funding? My wife always says 'it is about the money' but I don't see the point here has any validity.

Adobe is GOING to do the support for the new RAW one way or the other.

So it is simply a matter of timing.

Now I can hear Canon saying 'we don't lock down the RAW specifications until just before release' - but let's be real. They've been producing and packing boxes for weeks to be able to deliver worldwide. Which included DPP CDs - so they could have delivered the .cr2 specs to Adobe on the day the DPP software was delivered to the CD duplicators.


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Sep 09, 2016 09:35 |  #35

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Sep 09, 2016 09:43 |  #36

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Sep 09, 2016 09:51 |  #37

I would go for some High Iso Jpeg shots at this point

get them out fellas. lets see what this thing can do

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Sep 09, 2016 09:51 |  #38

25000 Iso Jpegs really needed

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Sep 09, 2016 10:07 |  #40

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He was using JPeg Large, not RAW. Even the older Lightroom versions can handle the JPegs out of any of the new Canon cameras.

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Sep 09, 2016 10:09 |  #41

I've ordered the new L bracket from RRS, but in the meantime will I be able to use my L bracket from my 5d II? I know it won't be a perfect match but I figured I would be able to attach it to the 5D IV somehow, does anybody know if this will work for a stop gap fix until the new L bracket arrives?


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Sep 09, 2016 10:14 |  #42

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I've ordered the new L bracket from RRS, but in the meantime will I be able to use my L bracket from my 5d II? I know it won't be a perfect match but I figured I would be able to attach it to the 5D IV somehow, does anybody know if this will work for a stop gap fix until the new L bracket arrives?

I wouldn't suggest it. You have the chance of scratching the paint off. I know a friend who did that. put a line on the bottom of the camera.


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Sep 09, 2016 10:17 |  #43

5DII L bracket will NOT fit on a 5D3, not even close. 5D4 is very much sized like 5D3, so I doubt it.

However, I would think there may a good chance that plates and maybe L bracket too from 5D3 will fit 5D4.

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Sep 09, 2016 10:18 |  #44

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18122236 (external link)
5DII L bracket will NOT fit on a 5D3, not even close. 5D4 is very much sized like 5D3, so I doubt it.

However, I would think there may a good chance that plates and maybe L bracket too from 5D3 will fit 5D4.

5D4 is a tad skinnier. If it does fit I'll be ticked because I sold my RSS L bracket from the 3. I saw the dimensions and grip being different and such and said eh.. no way it'll match up. sold it.


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Sep 09, 2016 10:26 |  #45

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18121438 (external link)
It's not Canon, it's Adobe, C1, Corel, et al.
It happens with EVERY RAW (current) converter for EVERY brand.
The only exception to that rule was a thing called BreezeBrowser, but that's gone and it only worked for Canon.

And it really only lasts a few weeks. Usually only the oddball die-hard's that pre-order ever actually face this issue :) (and Oh yes, i have faced it many times!) When you consider that the 5D3 has been out for years, and that only those that got it in the first two weeks or so faced it, it's really a total non problem. Early adopters are not driving the market.

What was the exception with Breezebrowser? Please explain. By the way, I think Breezebrowser Pro is still available for purchase.


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