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Sep 11, 2016 08:51 |  #1801

mesakid wrote in post #18124104 (external link)
Thanks! It's a lovely camera. Just don't know about the price right now.

It is a fine camera. Mostly dominated by portrait photographers who can get by with a good single center AF point or by budget oriented guys like myself who choose value over premium price. It seems that I don't lately by I do. I just got fed up with the sub par performance with ALL the shooting environments I'm in WHEN compared to a 5d3/4


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Sep 11, 2016 08:59 |  #1802

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Eh... I owned a 6D for a year.... 5d3 blows it away. The 6d has a few minor things that are better but are quickly overcome by the 5d3 ability to be superior. Sorry just how I feel.

I limped by with it. Every camera I've owned before the 5d3 I kept no longer Than a year. 5d3 was 2.5 only to be traded for the 5d4.

I've shot 90k photos in 5 years now. I know a little bit how all the bodies perform.


It depends on what you shoot. In the brief gap that I didn't own the 6D I limped by with the 5DIII. I don't do "limp by" well, that's why I own both. The best tool for the job, and all jobs are different, otherwise there'd be only one camera for all of us. :)




  
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Sep 11, 2016 09:05 |  #1803

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It depends on what you shoot. In the brief gap that I didn't own the 6D I limped by with the 5DIII. I don't do "limp by" well, that's why I own both. The best tool for the job, and all jobs are different, otherwise there'd be only one camera for all of us. :)

Agreed.


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Sep 11, 2016 09:09 |  #1804

Talley wrote in post #18124109 (external link)
Eh... I owned a 6D for a year.... 5d3 blows it away. The 6d has a few minor things that are better but are quickly overcome by the 5d3 ability to be superior. Sorry just how I feel.

I limped by with it. Every camera I've owned before the 5d3 I kept no longer Than a year. 5d3 was 2.5 only to be traded for the 5d4.

I've shot 90k photos in 5 years now. I know a little bit how all the bodies perform.

different priorities, just the fact that the 5D wasnt head and shoulders better made the 6D a better fit for many.


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Sep 11, 2016 09:21 |  #1805

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Well I'm happy to report that for STILLS all the tamron zooms I have work. but for video the LCD flickers red/green and then the camera shuts down.

15-30 VC
24-70 VC
70-200 VC

All exhibit this issue. I also know the 24-70 did this on the 80D. I thought I remember that Tamron had a firmware upgrade for them. I may have to send my trio in.

In the Lens abberation correction menu try turning off peripheral illumination correction to see if it fixes the issue.




  
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Sep 11, 2016 09:40 |  #1806

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John, the 6D was a few months later: https://en.m.wikipedia​.org …Canon_EOS_digit​al_cameras (external link)

I originally waited to see what the 6D was like before eventually going for the 5D3, as I felt it met my needs better.

OK, my memory of time frames is skewed, as usual. I probably passed because it had banding noise. I had the 5D2 and the 7D at that time, and I was probably disappointed that it had banding, too.




  
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Sep 11, 2016 10:03 |  #1807

Talley wrote in post #18124109 (external link)
Eh... I owned a 6D for a year.... 5d3 blows it away.

Well, you talk a lot about shooting children darting around, so multi-point AIServo is likely your priority. For someone who shoots things that don't double or half their distance from the camera in a 1/2 second, the 6D could be much more satisfactory, especially at extreme ISOs and under-exposures.

Of course, both cameras' advantages are moot compared to the 5D4, from what we've seen so far.




  
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Sep 11, 2016 10:08 |  #1808

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Well, you talk a lot about shooting children darting around, so multi-point AIServo is likely your priority. For someone who shoots things that don't double or half their distance from the camera in a 1/2 second, the 6D could be much more satisfactory, especially at extreme ISOs and under-exposures.

Of course, both cameras' advantages are moot compared to the 5D4, from what we've seen so far.

Exactly. I mentioned the 6d is dominating the portrait or stationary scene.

I don't dispute its strengths.


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Sep 11, 2016 10:28 |  #1809

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People are fond of dismissing the 6D based on specs and price, but I suspect most who believe this have never photographed with one. It is an extremely capable camera that is both superior and inferior to the 5Diii in several areas, all of which have been hashed over many times. For what I do, the 6D is simply a better choice. What I wanted in the 5D4 was a combination of the two, and by all reports I'm getting it and more. I'm not nuts about paying $3500 to get there but I suspect this is a camera that is going to make us all very happy for several years.

3499 is not bad if you intend to keep the camera the full cycle, if not more. a lot of people are waiting for the price to drop, but that probably won't happen for another year, and it might drop 500 bucks. for example, i bought the 5d3 when it first came out in 2012, 4.5 years ago for full price. I just sold the camera a few weeks ago for $1600. so my total cost of ownership was about $1900 over 4.5 years, so about $420 a year to use the camera. I intend to do the same with the 5d4. I'm just waiting for a few more reviews to come out, and maybe if there are going to be any of those bundle deals that come out from various retailers (ie. free memory cards, filters, etc.)
I loved the 5d3, and there wasn't much wanted other than some cleaner shadows, and some minor feature wants (auto iso in M!)and I've got that and much more with the new mark iv. The ONLY thing I might consider is the a7r2 with an adapter, but thats more like 5% chance. :)


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Sep 11, 2016 10:31 |  #1810

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3499 is not bad if you intend to keep the camera the full cycle, if not more. a lot of people are waiting for the price to drop, but that probably won't happen for another year, and it might drop 500 bucks. for example, i bought the 5d3 when it first came out in 2012, 4.5 years ago for full price. I just sold the camera a few weeks ago for $1600. so my total cost of ownership was about $1900 over 4.5 years, so about $420 a year to use the camera. I intend to do the same with the 5d4. I'm just waiting for a few more reviews to come out, and maybe if there are going to be any of those bundle deals that come out from various retailers (ie. free memory cards, filters, etc.)
I loved the 5d3, and there wasn't much wanted other than some cleaner shadows, and some minor feature wants (auto iso in M!)and I've got that and much more with the new mark iv. The ONLY thing I might consider is the a7r2 with an adapter, but thats more like 5% chance. :)

I've been preaching the same my friend.

The 5D4 will be a 5 year camera for me of not longer. They will have to come out with amazing upgrades to pry this camera out of my hands.

At baseball clinic with son and this camera is stellar.


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Sep 11, 2016 11:16 |  #1811

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Windows 7 64 does not display 5D4 RAW files thumbnails .....
Just got pics done, will post pics asap

Windoze still doesn't do 1Dx2 RAW thumbnails. :(


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Sep 11, 2016 11:28 |  #1812

Erik S. Klein wrote in post #18124246 (external link)
Windoze still doesn't do 1Dx2 RAW thumbnails. :(

Windows 7 64 doesn't display any cr2 files does it? I don't see them on my 7D or even 350D files


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Sep 11, 2016 11:33 |  #1813

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Windows 7 64 doesn't display any cr2 files does it? I don't see them on my 7D or even 350D files

It does/did (I'm on Win 10 now) my 5D2 and 1Dx1 CR2 files. I didn't go back to my older pics but I don't remember having trouble with the Rebel, 20D or 40D.

I've been waiting for the 1Dx2 files to work...

I did just develop a theory, though... I've used ACDSee for many years and that may have been doing the translations.

I haven't updated in forever. That may be my pre-football task now. :)


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Sep 11, 2016 11:47 |  #1814

Just realized this and not sure if it was the same before but whatever card you have selected as playback THAT is the card movies are recorded to. I'll be happy to say that you can only record about 3 seconds of 4K on the SD card before it "automatically stops" is the message that popped up. Had to select the CF card for playback so the video would record to it.

10 seconds of 4K = 650MB at ISO 100.


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Sep 11, 2016 12:19 as a reply to  @ Talley's post |  #1815

This is welcomed news because the 5D3 would only record to the SD when you had it set to write separately to CF/SD. So many times I accidentally formatted over the SD before remembering I had videos on there.


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