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Canon 5D Mark IV -- Time to Discuss!

 
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Sep 12, 2016 15:30 |  #1951

That kit won't be available 'til the end of October.


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Sep 12, 2016 15:47 |  #1952

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I use that feature a bunch to zoom in/out and move around on a photo. Much faster and easier than clicking buttons and joysticks. Menu selections took me longer, but after a while, I loved being able to just click around and set things without using buttons/wheels/joystic​ks as well. Either you make the switch or you don't, I suspect, because it becomes more difficult if you mix and match touchscreen vs the legacy method of changing/viewing things.

Just curious on how the chimping features compared with the 5d3. one thing that I didn't like was the fact that the deleting sequence took one too many steps. you would like to click delete, click right, then click on delete, then confirm the deletion. I believe with some nikons I've used in the past, you could just hit delete twice and it would go to the confirm screen. i know it's a little step, but when you have to potentially delete hundreds of shots in a day, that one button click saves a bunch of time. How does that compare with the 5d4?

I can already imagine the time savings for navigating around the image to look at focus/detail, etc. on the mark 4. with the 5d3, I had to click on the zoom button, and then it would zoom all the way in, then I would slowly zoom out and around. I got used to doing that, and fast, but I always thought that a touchscreen would be more efficient.


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Sep 12, 2016 16:07 |  #1953

ilumo wrote in post #18125709 (external link)
i know it's a little step, but when you have to potentially delete hundreds of shots in a day, that one button click saves a bunch of time.

Why would there be a need to delete hundreds of shots in camera?




  
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Sep 12, 2016 16:12 as a reply to  @ sipowicz's post |  #1954

I chimp a lot. I'll shoot a burst of 4-5 shots for every composition and usually choose the best couple of the bunch. so maybe hundreds is exaggerating a little, but its definitely a lot. it sure cuts down on the reviewing in lightroom. i know some people prefer to do it in post, but I prefer to do it in camera.


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Sep 12, 2016 16:30 |  #1955

vk2gwk wrote in post #18125131 (external link)
On this forum you cannot yet add the 5D Mark IV to your gear list.... :) So Photoshop and POTN are lagging... :)


It would be Awesome if we beat Adobe with a single individual doing 100% of the coding! :)


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Sep 12, 2016 16:35 |  #1956

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The issue of poor DR tends to bite me the most when shooting interiors (especially scenes in dimly lit castles and stately homes, where there's a view out of a window). Since I got the 5D4 I've been really busy, so unfortunately haven't had chance to do any "real" shooting with it yet - let alone get to a castle.

I managed to get a few quick shots in my workshop - all completely terrible from an artistic point of view, but it was possible to reproduce the scenario of a dimly lit (but still perfectly OK) room, with a view from a window. It's been pretty overcast/diffuse here today, so it wasn't even that bright outside.

I took some shots at ISO 100 on both bodies, just holding for the sky outside (there's a tiny bit of clipping, but only in the brightest clouds). The out of camera and lifted versions are below:

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I used the same lens, the same settings, and the in-camera histograms looked almost identical. No time for the tripod; hence the mismatches in composition.

Looking at crops of two areas, I get:

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....I have noticed the 5D3 produces warmer images for the same settings and workflow.....

I think there is more of a saturation difference than tone(based on the one image example you posted) where on the left hand side of the 5D3 image the subject is clearly showing as cooler than 5D4, while as you say, the handles on the right are visibly warmer than the 5D4.


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Sep 12, 2016 16:39 |  #1957

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18125604 (external link)
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Also it is interesting how there are a few that downplayed the crippled touchscreen tech on the 1DX2, but now they love it on the 5D4, as it works more like like the SL1. A well implemented touchscreen capability is just nice when doing photos. :)


Having never shot with a touch screen SLR, I found myself using it almost immediately. I was diving into the menu for the very first time to make some of my standard settings that I have to do before a camera feels even remotely familiar, and faced with the vast number of tabs I had to scroll through I simply reached out a finger and jumped right to the "wrench" from Tab 1.

Well that was nice ;)


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Sep 12, 2016 16:39 |  #1958

FLiPxJB wrote in post #18125629 (external link)
Sometimes i forget its a touchscreen and keep using the other buttons.


Definitely still using a lot of dials and buttons, as they are familiar and fast, but the touch screen is a handy fast forward in many cases!


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Sep 12, 2016 16:40 |  #1959

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Seems like @ ISO 400, the 5d 4 has better DR than the Nikon d810 and equally good DR with the D750.

Nice!


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Sep 12, 2016 17:03 |  #1960

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18125766 (external link)
Having never shot with a touch screen SLR, I found myself using it almost immediately. I was diving into the menu for the very first time to make some of my standard settings that I have to do before a camera feels even remotely familiar, and faced with the vast number of tabs I had to scroll through I simply reached out a finger and jumped right to the "wrench" from Tab 1.

Well that was nice ;)

That's good to know, 'cause I suspect like me you don't have tiny Donald Trump hands. :lol: I've been wondering how that's going to work with my fat fingers!




  
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Sep 12, 2016 17:08 as a reply to  @ Nethawked's post |  #1961

I wear size 15 shoes and have hands to match. I have no problems using the 80D touchscreen. You'r gonna love it;-)a


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Sep 12, 2016 17:11 |  #1962

The touch screen is one of those little additions that might seem minute and after a few days of using it, is a fantastic inclusion. Menu browsing is blazing fast now. For those who haven't gotten used to it, you will.


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Sep 12, 2016 17:16 |  #1963

I'm loving the touchscreen too and at first I thought of it as a gimmick! Was able to enter my copyright info in a record time lol


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Sep 12, 2016 17:26 |  #1964

71sbeetle wrote in post #18125801 (external link)
I'm loving the touchscreen too and at first I thought of it as a gimmick! Was able to enter my copyright info in a record time lol

Haha, had the same thought with the 80D. So much easier. :)


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Sep 12, 2016 17:30 |  #1965

SCMedic wrote in post #18125797 (external link)
The touch screen is one of those little additions that might seem minute and after a few days of using it, is a fantastic inclusion. Menu browsing is blazing fast now. For those who haven't gotten used to it, you will.

The menu system has gotten so deep and wide that I can see a touch screen being much easier than endless rolling of the wheels.




  
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