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Canon 5D Mark IV -- Time to Discuss!

 
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Sep 13, 2016 11:07 as a reply to  @ post 18126642 |  #2041

Chronicle their lives with the new 5D4, and bring those out in about 15 years to prove your points. :)


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Sep 13, 2016 12:01 |  #2042

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Don't tempt me... I've done it before :)

Talley - while I've appreciated your info about the 5DIV, and your enthusiasm around it, I have no need or urge to see your "talleywhacker" during any video, still, or any other kind of YouTube anything! Please continue to share your thoughts and enjoyment of the camera, but please keep your personal "reactions" private :)

Glad to know you like the camera a lot though, seeing as I hope to get one soon!



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Sep 13, 2016 12:03 |  #2043

You guys are making me jealous with all this 5D4 talk. I ordered mine from b&h, didn't make first batch but supposed to make the next one sometime this week.

Furthermore I can't believe I read all 137 pages of this thread in the last day....


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Sep 13, 2016 12:22 |  #2044

Keltab wrote in post #18126706 (external link)
Talley - while I've appreciated your info about the 5DIV, and your enthusiasm around it, I have no need or urge to see your "talleywhacker" during any video, still, or any other kind of YouTube anything! Please continue to share your thoughts and enjoyment of the camera, but please keep your personal "reactions" private :)

Glad to know you like the camera a lot though, seeing as I hope to get one soon!

I wouldn't I was joking lol


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Sep 13, 2016 12:28 as a reply to  @ post 18126584 |  #2045

Further to my earlier post - I've done a bit more testing, and there's definitely an issue whereby the left side bank of cross type points has a tendency to significantly front focus (vs all the other points). Whether that's affecting the non-cross type points wasn't conclusive, but the left cross type points definitely have a problem.

I'm wondering if I'm going to be the first guy to send in a 5D4 for repair :oops:


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Sep 13, 2016 13:19 |  #2046

Prordered my 5DIV body from Adorama a few days before release and got it in the first batch. Picked it up from UPS last night and am eager to fire it up and take it out! From just picking it up out of the box, it feels a lot lighter and smaller in my hand compared to my 5DIII. Hopefully someone supports raw, and someone else releases a cheap version of the battery grip soon!




  
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Sep 13, 2016 13:29 |  #2047

It will be lighter, there are more air pockets inside the 4 vs 3. It appears they could have shrunken the body a bit but obviously wanted the same basic form factor as the 3.


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Sep 13, 2016 13:47 |  #2048

sploo wrote in post #18126729 (external link)
Further to my earlier post - I've done a bit more testing, and there's definitely an issue whereby the left side bank of cross type points has a tendency to significantly front focus (vs all the other points). Whether that's affecting the non-cross type points wasn't conclusive, but the left cross type points definitely have a problem.

I'm wondering if I'm going to be the first guy to send in a 5D4 for repair :oops:

What lens was that with? I would hope a firmware update can take care of it.




  
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Sep 13, 2016 14:26 as a reply to  @ post 18124965 |  #2049

Sure I would.




  
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Sep 13, 2016 14:30 |  #2050

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What lens was that with? I would hope a firmware update can take care of it.

I tried both a 24-70II and a 70-200II. The 70-200 went in for a CPS Pro AF service a couple of years ago because it had problems - so I can be reasonably confident it's now good. Both are find on my 5D3.

Both lenses were giving me small MFA values for the centre AF point (using DotTune), and similar ranges for a right side cross type point. The two left cross type points I tested both needed significant back focus correction, so with the "right" MFA value set up for the centre point those left sided points are front focusing quite significantly.

I later did some testing by just shooting a test target (24-70II at 70mm, f/2.8) at about 3.5m distance, and all of the left bank of cross type points have a tendancy to front focus (to the degree that the target is clearly out of focus).

I assume it's possible for Canon's techs to physically tweak the AF sensor - as I can't fix that with MFA (unless you could do a per-point MFA).


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Sep 13, 2016 14:38 |  #2051

YunusEmre wrote in post #18126801 (external link)
What lens was that with? I would hope a firmware update can take care of it.

sploo wrote in post #18126853 (external link)
I tried both a 24-70II and a 70-200II. The 70-200 went in for a CPS Pro AF service a couple of years ago because it had problems - so I can be reasonably confident it's now good. Both are find on my 5D3.

Both lenses were giving me small MFA values for the centre AF point (using DotTune), and similar ranges for a right side cross type point. The two left cross type points I tested both needed significant back focus correction, so with the "right" MFA value set up for the centre point those left sided points are front focusing quite significantly.

I later did some testing by just shooting a test target (24-70II at 70mm, f/2.8) at about 3.5m distance, and all of the left bank of cross type points have a tendancy to front focus (to the degree that the target is clearly out of focus).

I assume it's possible for Canon's techs to physically tweak the AF sensor - as I can't fix that with MFA (unless you could do a per-point MFA).

OMG! Can you imagine having to MFA each lens at each focus point??

This isn't a firmware issue, and I believe (though not going back) you're the second person to report it. Not good. Let us know whether you send to Canon or back to the place of purchase. I won't get a chance to evaluate mine before Sunday even though it arrived today.

In other news, Canon appears to have stopped sending A/V cables. They weren't in my box. Not to worry, I already have several sets - not complaining at all.




  
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Sep 13, 2016 14:42 |  #2052

Nethawked wrote in post #18126860 (external link)
This isn't a firmware issue, and I believe (though not going back) you're the second person to report it. Not good. Let us know whether you send to Canon or back to the place of purchase. I won't get a chance to evaluate mine before Sunday even though it arrived today..

That sounds as if one of the mirrors or the AF sensor itself is miss-aligned.


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Sep 13, 2016 14:50 |  #2053

Nethawked wrote in post #18126860 (external link)
OMG! Can you imagine having to MFA each lens at each focus point??

This isn't a firmware issue, and I believe (though not going back) you're the second person to report it. Not good. Let us know whether you send to Canon or back to the place of purchase. I won't get a chance to evaluate mine before Sunday even though it arrived today.

In other news, Canon appears to have stopped sending A/V cables. They weren't in my box. Not to worry, I already have several sets - not complaining at all.

I think I'm likely #3 (one other report on this thread I believe, and another on a third party website). Small beans in terms in numbers really, but somewhat annoying.

I'm sorting out a return to my nearest service centre. The good news is that they've been able to arrange pick up for a small fee - the last time I sent gear (a 5D3 and a 70-200) the courier quotes were insane because of the level of insurance required.

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That sounds as if one of the mirrors or the AF sensor itself is miss-aligned.

That was my guess. Hopefully it'll be feasible for them to fix it. My experience with their work on the 70-200 (and service on my 5D3) was very positive, so I'm assuming that a hand tweak by a Canon tech will likely get a better result than taking the gamble of just returning the body and getting another one. At least... I hope...


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Sep 13, 2016 14:51 |  #2054

gjl711 wrote in post #18126867 (external link)
That sounds as if one of the mirrors or the AF sensor itself is miss-aligned.

Hmm, and if multiple people are experiencing it, I wonder how widespread it is. Too soon to really say but it reminds me of the issues that I think plagued the D800. They had an alignment issue that would cause one side of the AF array to focus too far forward or backward if I recall, my friend had the problem with his D800 and read of a lot of other reports of the same thing.


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Sep 13, 2016 14:53 as a reply to  @ sploo's post |  #2055

Sorry to hear you're having issues with your new toy. Hope they make things right quickly!


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