NBEast wrote in post #18134699
IMHO: There's a huge difference albeit there's a tendancy towards adequate lighting. (duh).
Sorry but IMHO, if you're still at a point of asking others if its even possible, much less getting your marketing going, then you're miles away from charging for it, much less at the high end.
IMHO you don't have to go all gear-head on the lighting but some is often needed. Event photog is about catching the moment, without fail. You'd need a LOT (I mean a LOT) of proven skill at making that pan out, every time, without fail, before succeeding at something as important as a high end wedding.
Maybe look for another alternative such as using subdued lighting to make things *look like* you didn't add it. There are certainly a lot of unnaturally lit looking wedding photos around, particularly by the less-than-seasoned. Making heavy use of reflectors during the group and B&G shots could still be called "natural". That's just one idea.
In short, I just don't think no-flash-wedding is viable unless you're gifted or have some other proven & reliable means of lighting when needed.
Another thought in support of the D800 - using a camera with very good high ISO performance and DR can allow you to get away with minimal extra lighting.
Just a suggestion. Be sure you have a 2nd along to catch you if you fall. Also; make sure your professional insurance is up to date.
1. Sorry If I come across as hard-headed. Not intentional at all. It's just that i've always learned to ask questions. That's the only true way to learning. A lot of people take the "It just won't work" and immediately give up. As for me, i'd go further to ask why it doesn't work to get a better understanding. That's all i'm doing... Just my personality bud. Thanks for your comment though
2. Well yes, I know, it's just that i've seen a minority of photographers (including the guy I mentioned earlier) do without any flash, and I simply wanted to know if anyone here has shot that way, how they did it, and how much effort went into to directing.
3. True, which is why I said i'm NOT marketing just set. I have to do my research to see what is viable and what is not, hence this post. i've learnt a lot from the comments received so far, stuff that probably couldn't get anywhere else. It's one thing to read someone's take on something, it''s completely different to interact with that person and have the option to ask questions etc. I want to get into the higher end of the market here, nothing wrong with that, but I have to be prepared, and that's the purpose this forum serves me.
Lastly. Yea I always shoot with a second (who I have no problem admitting is much better than I am). The weddings I do now are low budget and are for gaining experience. I'm actually now thinking of getting a D700 and the explore 600 that a friend of mine recommended, as well as 2 Yongnuo speed lights. Been watching some videos on how to use the flash to mimic natural light.
Really appreciate your comments, and your honest opinions. In fact, I left another forum for this very reason. People would just comment "Don't do that" or "Yea" with no real substance. Thanks much! Appreciate it.
Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #18134818
Valdano, just wanted to say that I really respect that you are open to suggestions. Seems like too often folks pigeon hole themselves into a way of approaching a problem and stick with it. Of course this is not just with photography, but life.
I was just mentioning to a new colleague today that the very first non technical or artistic thing I learned about photography was the importance of reading a situation and responding in an appropriate manner. This could be bending a paperclip into the perfect shape to hold a product in position, or it could be telling a client to go to hell, and anywhere in between. You gotta be flexible but direct in your approach to what you want to do.
None of us have the perfect answer to your situation, you just have to take what has been offered up and do with it what feels right. At least you are approaching it with an honest intent ... that's what it takes, each and every time. Good luck, man.
Or, woman. :
Thank you for your kind words Left Hand Brisket. Often times people shy away from asking for help, or take offence when someone responds and it's not what they want to hear, but i'd rather ask and be taught, bashed and criticised by other photographers than go out into the real world and fail horribly in front of my clients who pay for a service and expect nothing short of a superb product .
Oh, and yea, it's man hahahaha. Kudos bro! Appreciate!
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