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Sep 24, 2016 13:26 as a reply to  @ post 18138979 |  #3046

Here's another just to rub it in ;)


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Sep 24, 2016 14:24 as a reply to  @ Mike's post |  #3047

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Sep 24, 2016 16:08 |  #3048

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It seems just about everybody that doesn't have a fully featured touch screen on their Canon say this, then they get one and use it for a while, their minds almost always change. :)

That happened with the swively-flippy screen, too. I was an early adopter of the 60D, and almost all opinions were certain that the little flippy screen was going to break off at any minute. Now people are disappointed if a new Canon body doesn't have one.



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Now people are disappointed if a new Canon body doesn't have one.

I'm NOT!

I think Canon needs to sort their s**t out, thin out the product line and produce some basic cameras for the low end of the market, a few middle of the range items and a few specific 'pro' lines...

Touch and flip screens do NOT belong on the pro lines...


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Sep 24, 2016 16:29 |  #3050

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Touch and flip screens do NOT belong on the pro lines...

I agree about the flip but the touch screen is a revelation and definitely belongs.


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Mike wrote in post #18139146 (external link)
I agree about the flip but the touch screen is a revelation and definitely belongs.


I'll give you that, provided, I have the option of turning it off and using the 'big boys' controls... :p


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Sep 24, 2016 16:35 |  #3052

STIC wrote in post #18139140 (external link)
I'm NOT!

I think Canon needs to sort their s**t out, thin out the product line and produce some basic cameras for the low end of the market, a few middle of the range items and a few specific 'pro' lines...

Touch and flip screens do NOT belong on the pro lines...

I think you are likely outvoted (and outdated) in this regard. Example, the most PRO camera one can buy, 1DxII, from where I sit it was clear the majority of buyers wanted MORE touch screen functionality. Not none.

In your world "getting their stuff sorted out" would likely mean alienating a majority of buyers. Sorry, but it's just true.

that said, for the touch screen, it would make sense to be able to turn it off completely for certain applications (and users!) :)


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Sep 24, 2016 16:39 as a reply to  @ CyberDyneSystems's post |  #3053
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Oh, I know...

It's a shame technology leads what people want instead of people's wants leading technology...


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Sep 24, 2016 17:10 |  #3054

I never used the touchscreen on my SL1, thought it was a gimmick on the 5D4 but guess what, I actually use it a lot! Mostly for menus though not so much for image review


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I never used the touchscreen on my SL1, thought it was a gimmick on the 5D4 but guess what, I actually use it a lot! Mostly for menus though not so much for image review


Where as, while I haven't used a touch screen, I am more than happy with the toggle stick and dials and find they work very well and very fast...

If it ain't broke, spend the money on something that is...;-)a


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Sep 24, 2016 17:21 |  #3056

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Where as, while I haven't used a touch screen, I am more than happy with the toggle stick and dials and find they work very well and very fast...

If it ain't broke, spend the money on something that is...;-)a

No one's making you touch it. All the physical controls are still there.

I hear the same thing about touch screens on new laptops, yet Windows 10 has no requirement that you actually touch the touch screen.




  
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No one's making you touch it. All the physical controls are still there.

I hear the same thing about touch screens on new laptops, yet Windows 10 has no requirement that you actually touch the touch screen.


It'll probably come as no surprise to note that I still use XP, and refuse to use the later, awful OS's (except where i've had to install windoz 7 on the laptop to run the later DNG converter for 7DII raw's, so I can open them in photoshop CS3 (which I use as I have the entire CS3 design suite and don't want to spend more money for something I already have)).


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Sep 24, 2016 17:41 |  #3058

OMG he's even more grumpy than me! (still has XP running on two machines. There I said it, "Machines" ) lol :)


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No, still running XP on my main PC, 7 on the laptop which is used for nothing other than downloading images and converting raws to DNG's...:-D

Also, before anyone wants to ascribe some Luddite label to me, I should point out that I have been using a PC (pretty much, every day) since 1981...and switched to digital photography in the mid 90's (like, 20 years ago).


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Sep 24, 2016 17:57 |  #3060

TBH From using a 60D, the screen sat in exactly the same position (though was occasionally useful to turn it round to protect the LCD). Except for those few occasions where being able to fold it out was immensely useful. Given the speed of DPAF on the modern bodies I can absolutely see shooting with Liveview becoming more useful, and having a tilting screen would occasionally be a great help. I certainly wouldn't consider it a bad thing for the 5D line to gain a folding screen.


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