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Sep 24, 2016 18:46 |  #3061

STIC wrote in post #18139238 (external link)
It'll probably come as no surprise to note that I still use XP, and refuse to use the later, awful OS's (except where i've had to install windoz 7 on the laptop to run the later DNG converter for 7DII raw's, so I can open them in photoshop CS3 (which I use as I have the entire CS3 design suite and don't want to spend more money for something I already have)).

I almost feel bad for you being on XP still! XP can't take advantage of modern hardware properly. :-P


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Sep 24, 2016 18:48 |  #3062

yeah, limited to 3GB RAM for a start. :cry:


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Sep 24, 2016 18:49 |  #3063

Ironically, the flippy touch screen on the 70D was largely responsible for getting me a contest winning bird shot from the Florida Keys. I was on my honey moon and was definitely not dressed or otherwise prepared to lie down in the mush that was part salty mud and bird poop. But I was able to lower my 70D to just inches from the sand/water and take a great low angle shot using the flippy screen and touch DPAF. But I think it was my wife who appreciated this feature the most :)

I also kept using my 80D at wedding receptions just for the fold out touch screen + DPAF to take faster focused odd angle shots. It does focus faster and more accurately in low-light conditions and there are countless shots that I probably wouldn't have been able to get at receptions had it not been for the screen and live view.

So while I'm not cinsidering myself an absolute early adopter, I give credit where credit is due. Heck, I started using Adobe CC last year because of the advances in ACR; the various corrections features, radial filter, etc. are handy, as well as being able to utilize my graphics card in camera raw. Graphics card support didn't exist even in CS6.

Now, Windows 10 on the other hand... :-x


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Sep 24, 2016 19:05 |  #3064

STIC wrote in post #18139140 (external link)
I'm NOT!

I think Canon needs to sort their s**t out, thin out the product line and produce some basic cameras for the low end of the market, a few middle of the range items and a few specific 'pro' lines...

Touch and flip screens do NOT belong on the pro lines...

Basic=T6i
Intermediate= 80D
Enthusiast/Pro 7D2,5D series
Pro/Rich People= 1Dx2

What am I missing here? Canon seems to be doing exactly what you are asking for.



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Sep 24, 2016 19:45 |  #3065

smythie wrote in post #18139292 (external link)
yeah, limited to 3GB RAM for a start. :cry:

This alone makes XP obsolete. Lightroom doesn't even run on 32 bit systems now and if it did, it would be crippled by the lack of RAM.

Plus Win8/10 support things like SSDs properly, USB 3.1, etc. Even Win7 is getting long in the tooth and hardware is passing it by.




  
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Sep 24, 2016 20:27 |  #3066

Is LR 6.7 compatability with win 7?




  
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Sep 24, 2016 20:30 |  #3067

There are some people that still drive cars with double clutch manual gears... :) As long as they enjoy it... why would I begrudge them?
I enjoy the leading technology that brings me automatic gear, touch screens and modern operating systems that let me do things easier and faster and leave me more time to concentrate on creative activities.

The touch screen lets me go faster through menus on the 5D4. A swivel screen would have been handy when shooting at difficult angles where you cannot get your eye to the viewfinder but may be Canon saved it for the 5D5 :)
After ten days with the new body: great low light capabilities - far better than the 5D3 which was already good. And great/fast AF. Also more pixels to crop from when shooting birds or surfers ... or whatever.


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Sep 24, 2016 20:32 |  #3068

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Is LR 6.7 compatability with win 7?

Yes as long as it's 64 bit.




  
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Sep 24, 2016 20:59 |  #3069
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I don't use lightroom, never have...

I drive a manual, despite the ease of an auto...

XP works just fine with 3 gig of ram, simply because I don't clutter my PC with modern drivel...

I like what I like, and also, what I have used for a very long time. I can't be arsed learning where the buttons are for every new version of software and OS interface every 2 years...it's counter productive, not to mention expensive to keep updating hardware and software (in a never ending loop) every couple of years because the companies who make it want you to CONSUME!


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Sep 24, 2016 21:10 |  #3070

So weird for me to say this....

I'm really really really really liking the live view focusing performance and small histogram feature. The face detection is great. I may end up turning Sony if sony performs like this


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Sep 24, 2016 21:16 |  #3071

STIC wrote in post #18139385 (external link)
I don't use lightroom, never have...

I drive a manual, despite the ease of an auto...

XP works just fine with 3 gig of ram, simply because I don't clutter my PC with modern drivel...

I like what I like, and also, what I have used for a very long time. I can't be arsed learning where the buttons are for every new version of software and OS interface every 2 years...it's counter productive, not to mention expensive to keep updating hardware and software (in a never ending loop) every couple of years because the companies who make it want you to CONSUME!

You do have a point regarding software. I really hate "change for change's sake", and Microsoft excels at doing that, or at least so it seems. There are a bunch of things in Win10 that are different from Win7 but many are a backwards step. Take folder view for example. In Win7 (and XP?) I was able to see photo data/info at the bottom of the folder, it was resize-able and was a tremendous help when handling files and quick-checking files. AND, if I desired, I could turn on a preview pane/window on the right within the folder to see the photos larger in a preview. Now, MS just had to screw it up. No info/data at the bottom of the folder any more. Not even optional any more. You have the option of "details pane" OR "preview pane" on the right (or neither). It cannot be moved to the bottom. I searched initially whether I could move it to the bottom. Nope, not possible. Nevertheless, I also found thousands of others who were ticked off since this has totally screwed up their workflow (including mine).
And that's just one thing. Obviously, there are many cool and useful things about Win10, but why change stuff that worked great before???


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Sep 24, 2016 21:45 |  #3072

STIC wrote in post #18139385 (external link)
I don't use lightroom, never have...

I use Lightroom to edit and export photos for use on the internet, but I end up removing everything when I am finished. I absolutely hate all of these photography software applications that think they can organize my photographs better than I can. I still use the old Canon Zoombrowser to navigate my library of photos, and I think Zoombrowser EX stinks.




  
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Sep 24, 2016 21:51 |  #3073

STIC wrote in post #18139385 (external link)
I don't use lightroom, never have...

I drive a manual, despite the ease of an auto...

XP works just fine with 3 gig of ram, simply because I don't clutter my PC with modern drivel...

I like what I like, and also, what I have used for a very long time. I can't be arsed learning where the buttons are for every new version of software and OS interface every 2 years...it's counter productive, not to mention expensive to keep updating hardware and software (in a never ending loop) every couple of years because the companies who make it want you to CONSUME!

Just what I needed waking up from 4 days of flu :)

BUT... pls don't join the Canon feedback team... The 5DV will come with dual floppy drives!




  
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Sep 24, 2016 21:52 |  #3074

manderson wrote in post #18139431 (external link)
I use Lightroom to edit and export photos for use on the internet, but I end up removing everything when I am finished. I absolutely hate all of these photography software applications that think they can organize my photographs better than I can. I still use the old Canon Zoombrowser to navigate my library of photos, and I think Zoombrowser EX stinks.

I dunno I love lightroom. Handles 95% of my needs.


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Sep 24, 2016 21:53 |  #3075

The more and more I keep using live view the more I love it. The facial tracking is spot on... no worries about micro adjustment... shooting the 50A wide open its 100% accurate. Really good stuff.

Canon just needs to come out with a full size mirrorless. Maybe the size of a 80D w/ a flippy screen but electronic viewfinder and no mirror. would be a nice option to have.


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