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Oct 01, 2016 10:40 |  #3511

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OK, I'm jealous. I do all my wood hacking in a garage that's around 15x8'; with a ceiling height so low I sometimes bang my head!

His is about 16' x 24' inside of a garage he built that is I think like 50' overall in length. He built this room inside of the garage and has big doors he can open to extend if need be. He paints in the front part of this garage that is behind my camera view. He built a wood storage area on top of this room. The building is pretty high.

Yes he is fortunate. All my uncles are. He's probably the most active in the wood building though. Fireplaces, grand father clocks, entertainment centers, dressers, kitchen tables... etc. The list goes on and on. He's very good at everything. Drywall, tile, plumbing, electrical.

So am I for the most part. I love woodworking too just haven't had the space/extra funds to get into another hobby.


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Oct 01, 2016 10:44 |  #3512

Talley wrote in post #18145350 (external link)
His is about 16' x 24' inside of a garage he built that is I think like 50' overall in length. He built this room inside of the garage and has big doors he can open to extend if need be. He paints in the front part of this garage that is behind my camera view. He built a wood storage area on top of this room. The building is pretty high.

Yes he is fortunate. All my uncles are. He's probably the most active in the wood building though. Fireplaces, grand father clocks, entertainment centers, dressers, kitchen tables... etc. The list goes on and on. He's very good at everything. Drywall, tile, plumbing, electrical.

So am I for the most part. I love woodworking too just haven't had the space/extra funds to get into another hobby.

I'd love that - not just the space, but also separate spaces; so I could do dusty work in one area, then move to a clean area for hand tools, and a separate area for finishing. Not gonna happen in a small English garage!


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Oct 01, 2016 10:47 |  #3513

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I'd love that - not just the space, but also separate spaces; so I could do dusty work in one area, then move to a clean area for hand tools, and a separate area for finishing. Not gonna happen in a small English garage!

Whats funny is I took this on vacation. All my family lives in north part of usa and this was the ONLY photo I took that day. I had my camera in the truck and he was showing me his shop and I just said... you know what I can get a photo of you in your shop and capture the whole thing. Pulled out the rokinon 12mm fisheye and this is what I got. Single shot... mild edit to taste... cropped slightly. I like the black and white version just due to the lights. His wife loved the image... I ended up printing it to 11x14 and sending it to her.

He's actually pretty smart with everything too. Everything is on wheels so he can easily move things around himself.


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Oct 01, 2016 10:58 |  #3514

Had the chance to take some shots today on the balcony. A crow on a sunlit BG. The AF struggled, and I mean struggled, to keep focus on the crow. Then, once it had left I tried to focus on the branch to be ready for the next visit and everything went wrong. AF on the 200-400 stammerd and would not lock. I know the 1Dx would nail this everytime because I tried it, the crow came back, AF stayed on the crow. 5Dmk4 would stay focussed for a moment then throw itself randomly around.... no even on the BG, which I presumed was confusing it. I am concerned now.


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Oct 01, 2016 11:40 |  #3515

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Well playing around with my trifecta 10 bag I was able to get the weight to 12.4lbs while mimicking the 85 art. So my bag was:

5D4
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I know what it's like to carry a backpack all day at disney so I play around with the weight. I've done 15.5lbs before and that is too much. 12.4lbs could be ok. 11lbs is easy. Amazing what just a lb or two does after a 14-16hr day

Holy hell, all that at Disneyland? 2 lbs is my limit there, walking in the sun is tiring enough.


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Oct 01, 2016 11:42 |  #3516

Yeah, that's nuts, Talley! Disneyland is the place where, IMO, you slap the zoom lens on and go have fun.


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Oct 01, 2016 11:44 |  #3517

Talley wrote in post #18145350 (external link)
His is about 16' x 24' inside of a garage he built that is I think like 50' overall in length. He built this room inside of the garage and has big doors he can open to extend if need be. He paints in the front part of this garage that is behind my camera view. He built a wood storage area on top of this room. The building is pretty high.

Yes he is fortunate. All my uncles are. He's probably the most active in the wood building though. Fireplaces, grand father clocks, entertainment centers, dressers, kitchen tables... etc. The list goes on and on. He's very good at everything. Drywall, tile, plumbing, electrical.

So am I for the most part. I love woodworking too just haven't had the space/extra funds to get into another hobby.

I used to do a lot of woodworking, worked a job that did high end kitchens for a few years, built homes for a few years, past the electrical journeyman test a long while back... We have a lot in common lol.

I still have all the tools...


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Oct 01, 2016 11:52 |  #3518

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Holy hell, all that at Disneyland? 2 lbs is my limit there, walking in the sun is tiring enough.


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Yeah, that's nuts, Talley! Disneyland is the place where, IMO, you slap the zoom lens on and go have fun.

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Yeah, that's nuts, Talley! Disneyland is the place where, IMO, you slap the zoom lens on and go have fun.

It was brutal but for me was worth it. I did that for one day then packed accordingly for the rest. Next time I go back will most likely just carry the 24/50 combo. I did use the 24-70 mostly though, worked out well.


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Oct 01, 2016 12:03 |  #3519

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Had the chance to take some shots today on the balcony. A crow on a sunlit BG. The AF struggled, and I mean struggled, to keep focus on the crow. Then, once it had left I tried to focus on the branch to be ready for the next visit and everything went wrong. AF on the 200-400 stammerd and would not lock. I know the 1Dx would nail this everytime because I tried it, the crow came back, AF stayed on the crow. 5Dmk4 would stay focussed for a moment then throw itself randomly around.... no even on the BG, which I presumed was confusing it. I am concerned now.
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Neil. You might want to try something like that in spot v/ multi. Not sure what you used to lock on the crow. All black with backlight is gonna be tough but agreed my 1Dx2 would hit that very easily.

This is an interesting observation on your part. I know the AF systems are supposed to be close but now wondering if its similar to last update....Meaning...a little sister version of the 1Dx2

Will say. The 1Dx2 is the best camera I have ever used and the AF system just does not miss. So Im really impressed with it, especially Servo use.

Please keep testing and further report.


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Oct 01, 2016 12:19 |  #3520

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Neil. You might want to try something like that in spot v/ multi. Not sure what you used to lock on the crow. All black with backlight is gonna be tough but agreed my 1Dx2 would hit that very easily.

This is an interesting observation on your part. I know the AF systems are supposed to be close but now wondering if its similar to last update....Meaning...a little sister version of the 1Dx2

Will say. The 1Dx2 is the best camera I have ever used and the AF system just does not miss. So Im really impressed with it, especially Servo use.

Please keep testing and further report.

Tried spot AF, but that was slipping, moved to my old reliable single point with 4 helpers (normally use that for things moving around more), did not really help. Crow was not moving much, and like I say, shoud be enough detail for the AF arounf the eye and shoulder, 1Dx certainly nailed it. Was using AF preset 1 but slowed down tracking.

At ISO500 the shadows pulled OK, another shot at ISO1250 was OK but I ETTRed it.


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Oct 01, 2016 12:24 |  #3521

Here are two comparisons with the 1Dx after the 5D arrived. Not sure if the forum resizes but you will get the idea :) ALL noise reduction was off in lightroom, what you see here is RAW data. Images have a +2EV in Exposure and +100 in Shadows (so about +3EV total).
As you can see at ISO100 the 5D is way ahead of the 1Dx, which shows a fair bit of pattern noise. By ISO1600 I would rather be dealing with the 1Dx to be honest, but the 5D images can be re-sampĆ¼led down to a decent looking comparison (not as convincing at the 5Ds resized though!).


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Oct 01, 2016 12:27 |  #3522

Here we have ISO1600 with a level exposure, both look OK to me.

Alos the above ISO1600 comparison with NR applied. Looks a little nicer but the 5D has an obviously red tendancy ;)


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Oct 01, 2016 13:04 |  #3523

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...might check whether you have DLO and other such enabled...

No its all off.... I'm going to time it today if I have time


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Oct 01, 2016 15:02 |  #3524

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This may be enough of a turn off to stop me buying one, anybody else have this?

Oh, I just heard it only comes in black. What a disappointment. This may be enough of a turn off to stop me buying one. Anybody else?




  
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Oct 01, 2016 15:33 |  #3525

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ahh thats crap!

im worried about mines. i need to test other lenses. The 85L mk2 was ok. Around 35% where out of focus but is it because the background was a window and i was inside shooting against it with a model standing infront of the window?

the 70-200 f2.8 mk2 lens was spot on. no AF complaints there

well i just checked my 100-400 focusing on a triple aaa battery thats about 5ft away from me and it nailed focus and was tack sharp when zoomed in


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