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Easy ways to hand out a release?

 
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Sep 30, 2016 11:05 |  #1

Hi all.

I'm new to the business and I've already found myself in a few predicaments on how to easily have a release handy for someone to sign. I have a release template made up now online and in a printable form but it takes up a whole sheet of paper. My wheels got turning, and I thought what if I printed a release blurb on something as small as a business card where I could have them sign it quickly - like think almost street photography where I'm strolling along and ask to snap a picture of someone. I don't want to make a "big" deal of it and want it to be a simple exchange.

I don't know...just wondering if anyone does anything creative here and looking for ideas. Might be a waste of time but worth asking!

Thanks in advance!

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Sep 30, 2016 17:38 |  #2

1. You wouldn't be able to get all the text needed in a release onto a business card in a readable form.

2. What are you planning to do with the images that requires a release?


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Sep 30, 2016 20:35 |  #3

How about an app?

I know there are several out for iOS such as easy release and release me. If you're an android user then I'm sure there are release apps for them as well.




  
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Oct 01, 2016 03:42 |  #4

A model release benefits the photographer-not the subject. Most people will quickly realize there is no benefit for themselves. Even if the document is small, almost no stranger will sign a contract without payment.

It's important to realize that a model release is only required for advertising use or explicit endorsement. So use in commercial advertising requires a model release, but use on your website or fine art prints does not. This Professional Photographers of America document shows that Minnesota has no written Privacy Laws, but recognizes privacy laws as part of larger common law and may not need a model release in every case.

https://www.ppa.com …odelreleasewhit​epaper.pdf (external link)

Most photographers understand that every commercial use requires the hiring of a models and signed model releases, but almost every other type of use does not. If you never use photos of a model to sell or endorse a commercial product or in a situation that defames or embarrasses them-then you will have very little risk of a lawsuit.

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Oct 01, 2016 16:11 |  #5

If a stranger walked up to me and asked me to sign something, I'm not signing it, regardless of size and ease. I'm walking away.




  
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Oct 04, 2016 15:47 |  #6

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In the past, when I tried to ask someone to sign a release, they immediately realized that perhaps I was making money from the sale (licensure) of the images, and each time, the person said they would sign the release if they could re-write the terms to entitle them to one half of the money from any resultant image sales. When I said that I couldn't do that, they had no interest in having their picture taken, and refused to sign.

I honestly don't see how any photographers get people to sign releases without giving away all of their profits - in todays world, people are very savvy and aggressive whenever it comes to potential ways to get money for themselves.

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Oct 04, 2016 17:35 as a reply to  @ Tom Reichner's post |  #7
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Maybe that's why traveling to third world, 'exotic' countries is popular photography-wise: you get to shoot whoemver you want and no releases needed (unless you want to sell through a stock agency, of course).


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Oct 04, 2016 18:09 |  #8

There are model release apps that allow you to collect signatures on your phone or tablet. When I model for our local photography clubs, many of the photographers use these.

I'm usually happy to sign, as the terms of the club membership also dictate that the photographers provide the models with high-res images and a license for personal and self-promotional use.

If you're just approaching strangers on the street, I doubt they'd be so quick to sign away their right to publicity.


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Oct 04, 2016 18:15 |  #9

Threads like these make me realize that it's a pain in the ass to shoot human beings lol... thank goodness other than my family, all my living subjects have 4 legs or feathers!


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Oct 04, 2016 19:38 |  #10
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Scrumhalf wrote in post #18148491 (external link)
Threads like these make me realize that it's a pain in the ass to shoot human beings lol... thank goodness other than my family, all my living subjects have 4 legs or feathers!

The only time you really need to worry about this is if you will be using the images for advertisement or promotional material. I've shot human beings all over this globe without a release, made books, posted online etc... but I don't plan on using the images for advertisement of any kind...or selling them to companies that will use them for advertisements or some other commercial usage.

I personally don't find it a pain in the ass shooting humans...I find it very challenging and rewarding.




  
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Oct 04, 2016 19:46 |  #11

Yeah, I was just being facetoous. Ive taken lots of "street" shots too, but no plans to usecany commercially.

But I've got to say, if someone random walked up to me and dangled a release form in front of me, there's no way I am signing.


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Oct 06, 2016 20:39 |  #12

Hogloff wrote in post #18148541 (external link)
The only time you really need to worry about this is if you will be using the images for advertisement or promotional material. I've shot human beings all over this globe without a release, made books, posted online etc... but I don't plan on using the images for advertisement of any kind...or selling them to companies that will use them for advertisements or some other commercial usage.

I personally don't find it a pain in the ass shooting humans...I find it very challenging and rewarding.

This is not accurate. Even if you are going post them on your website, share on social media, you should have a release. This is what a lawyer that has a very successful business in NY, that has successfully sued photographers numerous times, for these things. He specializes in this stuff. Google Edward C. Greenburg, J.D.

Oh he also states to not, ever trust advise posted on forums by other photographers.


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Oct 06, 2016 20:46 |  #13

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This is not accurate. Even if you are going post them on your website, share on social media, you should have a release. This is what a lawyer that has a very successful business in NY, that has successfully sued photographers numerous times, for these things. He specializes in this stuff. Google Edward C. Greenburg, J.D.

Oh he also states to not, ever trust advise posted on forums by other photographers.

The fact is that you can be sued for anything even when you're in the right. Even winning can be expensive.


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Oct 06, 2016 20:59 |  #14

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The fact is that you can be sued for anything even when you're in the right. Even winning can be expensive.

Yup.

Winning in court is about who has the better lawyer; it has little to do with laws or statutes or who's "right."


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Oct 07, 2016 05:55 |  #15

frozenframe wrote in post #18150332 (external link)
This is not accurate. Even if you are going post them on your website, share on social media, you should have a release. This is what a lawyer that has a very successful business in NY, that has successfully sued photographers numerous times, for these things. He specializes in this stuff. Google Edward C. Greenburg, J.D.

You certainly don't need a release for that. Case in point - any news site or station that ever existed.




  
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