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Canon 5D Mark IV -- Time to Discuss!

 
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Oct 03, 2016 20:17 |  #3586

OK, must admit I have not read all of this thread. Quite a bit, but not all.

I was very unhappy with my 5D MK III. Yep. I was the one. I'm sure you knew there was one shooter who sold it a few weeks after it was released:) I legitimately felt the images from my 5D II were much superior and after I bought a feature poor but image high 6D to replace it. I am now considering a 5D IV.

Couple of questions:

How is the dynamic range? This was my number 1 complaint with the III. 1 DX much superior and even the 6D and 5D II in my opinion.

Is the exposure in evaluative still highly weighted toward the focus point? That was the second deal breaker. Can it be changed in the IV?

And last, will an L-Bracket from 5D III work on a 5 D IV? Seems it should. Anyone tried? Obviously not a deal breaker on this one.

Thanks.

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Oct 03, 2016 20:18 |  #3587

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...By the time I took the two shots shown below I was working under bulb light - hence the noise, but daylight or bulb, handheld or tripod, the results are consistent.

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...This is pretty much what I get with all shots (with some minor AF variation, of course). AF with Liveview and it's bang on.

I don't know if this helps or not, or if it's even a valid test. I used my 100-400 II at 400mm and f/5.6. I used a tripod and set it up to photograph a flat fence post. The focal plane of the camera was about 36 inches from the fence (ie, min focus distance for the 100-400 II). According to a depth of field calculator, the dof is just 0.02" for that setup. MFA for the lens was 0. I took shots using the left, center, and right focus points of the center horizontal row. Every shot I took was tack sharp over the entire image. I also did the test from 12 feet away and got the same results.


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Oct 03, 2016 20:24 |  #3588
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sploo wrote in post #18147386 (external link)
Granted, but what happens if I pull the gamble handle again and get the same issue? I could just spend forever swapping cameras -?

I've mailed the service centre with the details and I'll see what they suggest.


I'd be sending it back with, as I said, a big hint from me to check the replacement BEFORE sending it out to me, and, should the replacement be defective, then the same situation would occur, except that time, I would be speaking to a senior person at Canon before I expected the next body to arrive!


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Oct 03, 2016 20:30 |  #3589

rebop wrote in post #18147554 (external link)
OK, must admit I have not read all of this thread. Quite a bit, but not all.

I was very unhappy with my 5D MK III. Yep. I was the one. I'm sure you knew there was one shooter who sold it a few weeks after it was released:) I legitimately felt the images from my 5D II were much superior and after I bought a feature poor but image high 6D to replace it. I am now considering a 5D IV.

Couple of questions:

How is the dynamic range? This was my number 1 complaint with the III. 1 DX much superior and even the 6D and 5D II in my opinion.

Is the exposure in evaluative still highly weighted toward the focus point? That was the second deal breaker. Can it be changed in the IV?

And last, will an L-Bracket from 5D III work on a 5 D IV? Seems it should. Anyone tried? Obviously not a deal breaker on this one.

Thanks.

~Bob

Interesting. People usually found the DR between the 5D2 and 5D3 a wash at lower ISO values. I seem to recall a lot of reviews making that point too. Anyway, to answer your questions the DR is fantastic. For most purposes it is on par with any other sensor out there. Lots of shadow recovery tests floating around the forum. I wasn't unhappy with the DR on the 5D3 but in testing I can see a huge difference on the 5D4. I mean HUGE. I can't say for sure about the focus point weighted metering but the metering system is a whole new animal and I find the camera meters much better than the 5D3 in just about every scenario. Can't speak to the L bracket, sorry. I'd give the 5D4 a spin. You'll likely be impressed.


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Oct 03, 2016 20:33 |  #3590

rebop wrote in post #18147554 (external link)
And last, will an L-Bracket from 5D III work on a 5 D IV? Seems it should. Anyone tried? Obviously not a deal breaker on this one.

According to what I've read, it will fit, but doesn't allow the battery door to open enough to get a battery in or out.




  
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Oct 03, 2016 20:58 |  #3591

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And last, will an L-Bracket from 5D III work on a 5 D IV? ...
~Bob


mike_d wrote in post #18147570 (external link)
According to what I've read, it will fit, but doesn't allow the battery door to open enough to get a battery in or out.

Bob, you ask about "an L bracket" but aren't specific about brand.

I am the one that tested the RRS L bracket and it fits perfectly, with the same exception that Mike pointed out.

The RRS bracket is just slightly too long on the bottom for the 5D4's new battery door placement for the door to open far enough to replace a battery.

It is so close, the only change appears to e this mm move of the location of the battery door.
I would not be at all surprised if some of the other brand L brackets fit without this problem, but I don't have another brand to try.


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Oct 03, 2016 21:07 |  #3592

nqjudo wrote in post #18147566 (external link)
Interesting. People usually found the DR between the 5D2 and 5D3 a wash at lower ISO values. I seem to recall a lot of reviews making that point too. Anyway, to answer your questions the DR is fantastic. For most purposes it is on par with any other sensor out there. Lots of shadow recovery tests floating around the forum. I wasn't unhappy with the DR on the 5D3 but in testing I can see a huge difference on the 5D4. I mean HUGE. I can't say for sure about the focus point weighted metering but the metering system is a whole new animal and I find the camera meters much better than the 5D3 in just about every scenario. Can't speak to the L bracket, sorry. I'd give the 5D4 a spin. You'll likely be impressed.

Thanks for that. Encouraging and I may just have to buy one and check it out.


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Oct 03, 2016 21:10 |  #3593

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18147589 (external link)
Bob, you ask about "an L bracket" but aren't specific about brand.

I am the one that tested the RRS L bracket and it fits perfectly, with the same exception that Mike pointed out.

The RRS bracket is just slightly too long on the bottom for the 5D4's new battery door placement for the door to open far enough to replace a battery.

It is so close, the only change appears to e this mm move of the location of the battery door.
I would not be at all surprised if some of the other brand L brackets fit without this problem, but I don't have another brand to try.

Cool, thanks. I had never thought about the battery door. Usually the issue is the ports and covers. I have a Neewer, if it matters. Can always buy a new one, but nice if what I have had in storage works. But as mentioned, first two considerations much more important to me. Appreciate the reply.

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Oct 03, 2016 21:12 |  #3594

rebop wrote in post #18147554 (external link)
OK, must admit I have not read all of this thread. Quite a bit, but not all.

I was very unhappy with my 5D MK III. Yep. I was the one. I'm sure you knew there was one shooter who sold it a few weeks after it was released:) I legitimately felt the images from my 5D II were much superior and after I bought a feature poor but image high 6D to replace it. I am now considering a 5D IV.

Couple of questions:

How is the dynamic range? This was my number 1 complaint with the III. 1 DX much superior and even the 6D and 5D II in my opinion.

Is the exposure in evaluative still highly weighted toward the focus point? That was the second deal breaker. Can it be changed in the IV?

And last, will an L-Bracket from 5D III work on a 5 D IV? Seems it should. Anyone tried? Obviously not a deal breaker on this one.

Thanks.

~Bob

Hey man

Have a look here https://photography-on-the.net …ead.php?t=14668​88&page=31

I posted an example of shadow recovery that may be of interest




  
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Oct 03, 2016 21:39 |  #3595

lol, I just turned my 7D2 off and on again three times because "the touch screen was frozen" !! :)


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Oct 03, 2016 21:54 |  #3596

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lol, I just turned my 7D2 off and on again three times because "the touch screen was frozen" !! :)

I kept touching the screen on the weekend.

Its amazing how quickly you get used to something




  
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Oct 03, 2016 21:55 |  #3597

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I kept touching the screen on the weekend.

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Please, leave your personal life out of it.. :)


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Oct 03, 2016 21:57 |  #3598

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Please, leave your personal life out of it.. :)

But it feels good against my skin.

So good




  
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Oct 03, 2016 22:19 |  #3599

My 5D4 has a touchscreen? ;-)a


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Oct 03, 2016 23:28 |  #3600

Do the pocket wizards still not work on the mark 4?




  
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