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Oct 05, 2016 19:31 |  #3691

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Is anyone having issues importing RAW images into lightroom? I usually have to cancel the import and do it a second time for the images to show a regular sized preview.

No such troubles on my system. I do notice that it takes a lot longer to build the previews though.


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Oct 06, 2016 00:10 |  #3692

Why is exposure compensation such a big deal to have in manual. Isn't the exposure compensation at that point your shutter speed while you're in manual? Lol. What am I missing?

I've seen this come up a few times and always wondered.


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Oct 06, 2016 00:14 |  #3693

sourcehill wrote in post #18149550 (external link)
Why is exposure compensation such a big deal to have in manual. Isn't the exposure compensation at that point your shutter speed while you're in manual? Lol. What am I missing?

I've seen this come up a few times and always wondered.

This has been discussed a lot. In manual mode with auto ISO, you lock down the aperture and shutter speed and let the camera pick the ISO. What happens if the camera under or over exposes? You can bias the exposure by adjusting the shutter speed because the camera will just raise or lower the ISO to obtain the same exposure as before. EC in M with auto ISO fixes that.




  
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Oct 06, 2016 02:02 |  #3694

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hmmm.... like I said, I "tested" this myself when I got mine. All I did was take some shots of stuff the outer focus points and inspected the images and they looked fine to me.

me too. all fine for me also


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Oct 06, 2016 02:22 |  #3695

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I agree the 7D2 is a great value. I still use my 5d2 too, honestly I'm happy with the image quality of both cameras.

I've been looking at some reviews of the 5d4 online and many are saying its still not up to the Sony A7RII and thats a bit disappointing considering the Sony has been out for a while. Also seems many are complaining about the video, but I don't shoot much video.

The A7R2 is a whole lot of camera in a small package. As my A7R packed up and the 5D4 was announced I had to make a choice. The Sony A7R2 as my main walk around/landscape body but not really suitable for wildlife due to slower AF on adapted lenses or the 5D4 which I could use for landscapes (30MP and decent DR is enough) and also wildlife with all my teles.

I will miss focus peaking, manual focus lenses half the size of the Canon equiv, all that lovely DR and uncompressed RAW files. Not to mention no AA filter, bags of detail and all in a small body. I do not do much video, so non of those options are an issue here but the A7R2 tends to overheat when shooting 4K full frame. The 5D4 crops to 1.6x and so far, does not overheat.

Maybe when the A7R3 (or A9 or whatever) is out and used A7r2's drop in price I might grab one again. 5D4 has much better low ISO DR, but it is not class leading. A7R2 has class leading IQ but will not drive my 500f4 (unless I am shooting dead snails). For me it came down to all round usage and the need for a quieter shutter than the 1Dx has (when I need it).


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Oct 06, 2016 05:24 |  #3696

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A7R2 has class leading IQ but will not drive my 500f4 (unless I am shooting dead snails).

Looking forward to the pics.


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Oct 06, 2016 06:00 |  #3697

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Looking forward to the pics.

Me too! :p


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Oct 06, 2016 08:54 |  #3698

mike_d wrote in post #18149553 (external link)
This has been discussed a lot. In manual mode with auto ISO, you lock down the aperture and shutter speed and let the camera pick the ISO. What happens if the camera under or over exposes? You can bias the exposure by adjusting the shutter speed because the camera will just raise or lower the ISO to obtain the same exposure as before. EC in M with auto ISO fixes that.

Makes sense. So not FULLY manual where you're setting all three segments of the exposure triangle.

Thanks for making me understand!


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Oct 06, 2016 09:05 |  #3699

I see the 5D4 has a different lever to the 7D2 for skipping through the focus spot/ zone settings. Don´t know if you can set it to exposure compensation coupled with the top wheel like the 7D2 one but if you can and dont really use it for the focus zone settings I find it a good way of setting compensation in M with autoiso . Just a tip someone might find helpfull if it indeed works like the 7D2.


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Oct 06, 2016 09:35 |  #3700

I still have this major problem with like 99% of my photos are in focus tack sharp...

Does anyone else have this issue?


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Oct 06, 2016 09:45 |  #3701

Talley wrote in post #18149771 (external link)
I still have this major problem with like 99% of my photos are in focus tack sharp...

Does anyone else have this issue?

Same problem here but I also noticed that I already have dust on my sensor. Lucky I'm still within my exchange period ;-)a


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Oct 06, 2016 09:47 |  #3702

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Same problem here but I also noticed that I already have dust on my sensor. Lucky I'm still within my exchange period ;-)a

I dumped a bunch of dust on mine the day I got it just so I can see how affective the automatic cleaning system works. It works great but it scewed up all my missed focus shots and now they are just always in focus and forces me to shoot less because it simply isn't needing to take double shots anymore :cry:

Edit: To the guy who buys my used 5D4 in 4-5 years this was just a joke.... I did not dump dust onto my sensor but the photos are all blurry :rolleyes: :p


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Oct 06, 2016 11:24 |  #3703

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To the 5d4 owners. What do you like/dislike about it? Worth the upgrade from the 3?


Very much worth the upgrade.

Most Obvious Likes:

- The big surprise is the AF system, which sharing the AF of it's big brother the 1Dx2, is superior in many ways to anything else out there! Makes all my lenses AF faster and seem more accurate.

- Part of that AF improvement is full use of AF system @ F/8 and NO perceivable slow down in AF when T-Cons are added!!!

- The DR and noise handling improvements are fantastic, and frankly I was a little surprised to be impressed by what 50% more pixels can do.

- The menu system and customization are also amazing.

- Touch screen is very helpful.

- Built in WiFi and GPS

Most Obvious Dislikes:

- Reduced battery life vs. 5D3 and even 7D2 from what I can tell.

- I like the AF Area controller on the 7D2 much better, Much easier to get to when you are looking through the viewfinder on the 7D2.


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Oct 06, 2016 11:37 |  #3704

Thanks Jake, I really like the 7d2 but funny I often still use center point autofocus because of all my years on a 5d2. I'll probably make the jump and make my wife happy since she will get the 5d2.


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Oct 06, 2016 11:44 |  #3705

Talley wrote in post #18149771 (external link)
I still have this major problem with like 99% of my photos are in focus tack sharp...

Does anyone else have this issue?

Not me, could it be because I use center spot af most of the time? Maybe I should try something else?


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Very much worth the upgrade.

Most Obvious Likes:

- The big surprise is the AF system, which sharing the AF of it's big brother the 1Dx2, is superior in many ways to anything else out there! Makes all my lenses AF faster and seem more accurate.

- Part of that AF improvement is full use of AF system @ F/8 and NO perceivable slow down in AF when T-Cons are added!!!

- The DR and noise handling improvements are fantastic, and frankly I was a little surprised to be impressed by what 50% more pixels can do.

- The menu system and customization are also amazing.

- Touch screen is very helpful.

- Built in WiFi and GPS

Most Obvious Dislikes:

- Reduced battery life vs. 5D3 and even 7D2 from what I can tell.

- I like the AF Area controller on the 7D2 much better, Much easier to get to when you are looking through the viewfinder on the 7D2.

Personally I haven't seen a decrease in battery life and I use the GPS, took over 900 shots over 3 days and both batteries were still in the 80% range.


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