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Oct 06, 2016 11:58 |  #3706

battery life varies dramatically based on use. I shot 1800 images in a week on the same battery. I've also had a single battery only last 450 images.

Think about this... if you video the entire time you took zero images ;)


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Oct 06, 2016 12:05 |  #3707

Talley wrote in post #18149929 (external link)
battery life varies dramatically based on use. I shot 1800 images in a week on the same battery. I've also had a single battery only last 450 images.

I have a 5D3 and found the turning off the image review makes quite a difference as does limiting chimping.




  
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Oct 06, 2016 12:34 |  #3708

Neilyb wrote in post #18149606 (external link)
The A7R2 is a whole lot of camera in a small package. As my A7R packed up and the 5D4 was announced I had to make a choice. The Sony A7R2 as my main walk around/landscape body but not really suitable for wildlife due to slower AF on adapted lenses or the 5D4 which I could use for landscapes (30MP and decent DR is enough) and also wildlife with all my teles.

I will miss focus peaking, manual focus lenses half the size of the Canon equiv, all that lovely DR and uncompressed RAW files. Not to mention no AA filter, bags of detail and all in a small body. I do not do much video, so non of those options are an issue here but the A7R2 tends to overheat when shooting 4K full frame. The 5D4 crops to 1.6x and so far, does not overheat.

Maybe when the A7R3 (or A9 or whatever) is out and used A7r2's drop in price I might grab one again. 5D4 has much better low ISO DR, but it is not class leading. A7R2 has class leading IQ but will not drive my 500f4 (unless I am shooting dead snails). For me it came down to all round usage and the need for a quieter shutter than the 1Dx has (when I need it).

im very lucky to have both the a7r2 and the 5d4.

perfect combination for the same price of a 1 series body!


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Oct 06, 2016 12:39 as a reply to  @ jonneymendoza's post |  #3709

The one thing with the A7RII that has me interested is the new Voightlander 10,12 and 15 primes.

Do you still feel a need to keep the Canon? Which do you prefer? Is the weight difference noticeable?
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Oct 06, 2016 12:57 |  #3710

It looks like I am over the tipping point when it comes to crop vs FF for my bird shooting. It's close but I think with the 5D4 I now shoot a lot more with FF than crop. 30mp is great, the AF is great, etc, we all know the rest. My 80D is good too but I gave it to my wife to use it in her lab (and we're selling her T4i).

Anyway, the cropped, processed final image vs the uncropped, unchanged jpeg from camera:
(p.s. and what if I had a top notch birding lens... )

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Oct 06, 2016 13:04 |  #3711

Another example. The final image vs the uncropped, unaltered, underexposed jpeg. If you only look at the original, it's far from impressive ;)

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Oct 06, 2016 14:50 |  #3712

A quick session in bad light with my balcony crows. Wanted to test 100fps video (it's a bit long but time for bed :) ):
Did want to test 4k but my Sandisk Extreme 120mbs was not up to it :(



ISO1250, 200-400.


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Oct 06, 2016 15:13 |  #3713

I have never really used video before, but now I have a 5D4, I would like to try it. Apart from a tripod, is there any other equipment that is good to have to produce videos from this camera? Any hints with respect to settings for the best results? And what should I get (cost effective) if I want to record sound? Lastly, what software are people using to edit their videos? (Preferably very user friendly). Thanks!




  
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Oct 06, 2016 15:39 |  #3714

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18149898 (external link)
Very much worth the upgrade.

Most Obvious Likes:

- The big surprise is the AF system, which sharing the AF of it's big brother the 1Dx2, is superior in many ways to anything else out there! Makes all my lenses AF faster and seem more accurate.

- Part of that AF improvement is full use of AF system @ F/8 and NO perceivable slow down in AF when T-Cons are added!!!

- The DR and noise handling improvements are fantastic, and frankly I was a little surprised to be impressed by what 50% more pixels can do.

- The menu system and customization are also amazing.

- Touch screen is very helpful.

- Built in WiFi and GPS

Most Obvious Dislikes:

- Reduced battery life vs. 5D3 and even 7D2 from what I can tell.

- I like the AF Area controller on the 7D2 much better, Much easier to get to when you are looking through the viewfinder on the 7D2.

Reduced battery life? Blergh.

I already almost get battery anxiety with my 5D3 as compared to my 1D2. Oh well, never actually been an issue.

Realistically I think it's just because the 1D2 always seemed to last longer than it was rated for while the 5D3 is probably closer to on target, and has a more accurate (pessimistic) battery meter.


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Oct 06, 2016 15:41 |  #3715

I am using an IS lens most of the time, but yes mine seems to eat the batteries a little faster than 5D3.


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Oct 06, 2016 17:30 |  #3716

Tommydigi wrote in post #18149981 (external link)
The one thing with the A7RII that has me interested is the new Voightlander 10,12 and 15 primes.

Do you still feel a need to keep the Canon? Which do you prefer? Is the weight difference noticeable?
thanks

Weight difference and size is a bit noticeable. I keep the canon for work gigs as its faster then the a7r2.

If the A9 becomes amazing, it could replace my 5d4

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Oct 06, 2016 18:56 |  #3717

Continuing my AF issues saga; it occurred to me that it would be a good idea to test AF via Liveview, as although it's now effectively phase AF, the AF "sensor" plane is the imaging plane, so like the old contrast AF system it should be perfect (i.e. no need for MFA).

With the 24-70II at 70mm and f/2.8 I shot the test chart again. On the centre point, focus was perfect, and almost identical between the viewfinder and Liveview.

Focusing through the viewfinder with the leftmost AF point gave the severe front focusing I've been experiencing, but interestingly I get the same result in Liveview. I assume that would point to a lens rather than body (i.e. AF sensor) issue.

Repeating the test with the 70-200II (also at 70mm and f/2.8) I get good (and similar) focus with the centre point through the viewfinder and Liveview.

With the left point however, I do get strong front focusing with the left point on the viewfinder, but I get good focus with Liveview; which would maybe hint at an AF sensor issue.

Whatever... I'm going to get the camera and those two lenses to the Canon service centre and let them work it out. If there's still problems afterwards... I don't know. Maybe I'll buy a Box Brownie or something...


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Oct 06, 2016 19:33 |  #3718

If it doesn't work you should poop on the camera. Then you could be the first guy to say he pooped on a 5d4


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Oct 06, 2016 19:39 |  #3719

Talley wrote in post #18150288 (external link)
If it doesn't work you should poop on the camera. Then you could be the first guy to say he pooped on a 5d4

I'm pretty sure some mirrorless users beat us all to it.


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Oct 06, 2016 21:08 |  #3720

sploo wrote in post #18150270 (external link)
Continuing my AF issues saga; it occurred to me that it would be a good idea to test AF via Liveview, as although it's now effectively phase AF, the AF "sensor" plane is the imaging plane, so like the old contrast AF system it should be perfect (i.e. no need for MFA).

With the 24-70II at 70mm and f/2.8 I shot the test chart again. On the centre point, focus was perfect, and almost identical between the viewfinder and Liveview.

Focusing through the viewfinder with the leftmost AF point gave the severe front focusing I've been experiencing, but interestingly I get the same result in Liveview. I assume that would point to a lens rather than body (i.e. AF sensor) issue.

Repeating the test with the 70-200II (also at 70mm and f/2.8) I get good (and similar) focus with the centre point through the viewfinder and Liveview.

With the left point however, I do get strong front focusing with the left point on the viewfinder, but I get good focus with Liveview; which would maybe hint at an AF sensor issue.

Whatever... I'm going to get the camera and those two lenses to the Canon service centre and let them work it out. If there's still problems afterwards... I don't know. Maybe I'll buy a Box Brownie or something...


I haven't checked mine... but you make me scared to check mine lol :eek:


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