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Canon 5D Mark IV -- Time to Discuss!

 
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Oct 13, 2016 00:51 |  #3826

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18155302 (external link)
thanks!

Other than us "some users" here, where else is it being reported may I ask?


Here in Finland. I did not put any links since the writings are in Finnish :)

Here is one example (Finnish language warning!): http://www.petripietil​ainen.fi …Canon+5D+Mark+I​V+ja+bugi/ (external link)




  
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Oct 13, 2016 03:55 |  #3827

vk2gwk wrote in post #18155474 (external link)
My new charger - that came with the 5D4 - does not charge after market batteries. The older charger for my 5D3 has no problem with them and charges correctly.
Any others with the same experience?

I found this when going from a 7D (mark I) to the 5D3 - they must have some firmware in the charger that tries to detect non-Canon originals.

Oddly I have two identical third party batteries (bought at the same time) and the 5D4 is fine with one, but tells me the other is not original and asks if I want to proceed.

Just a case of waiting a bit and ordering some hopefully updated batteries (that have "cracked" Canon's latest detection algorithm).


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Oct 13, 2016 04:00 |  #3828
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sploo wrote in post #18155721 (external link)
I found this when going from a 7D (mark I) to the 5D3 - they must have some firmware in the charger that tries to detect non-Canon originals.

Oddly I have two identical third party batteries (bought at the same time) and the 5D4 is fine with one, but tells me the other is not original and asks if I want to proceed.

Just a case of waiting a bit and ordering some hopefully updated batteries (that have "cracked" Canon's latest detection algorithm).


Or...Canon could just go get F**ked!

Where do they get off deciding what brand of battery we should use?

Can you imagine buying a, for instance, FORD and then finding out it will only work with a FORD branded battery, and no third party equipment will work?

Or maybe, they do a deal with BP and you can't use any other brand of fuel?


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Oct 13, 2016 04:23 |  #3829

STIC wrote in post #18155723 (external link)
Or...Canon could just go get F**ked!

Where do they get off deciding what brand of battery we should use?

Can you imagine buying a, for instance, FORD and then finding out it will only work with a FORD branded battery, and no third party equipment will work?

Or maybe, they do a deal with BP and you can't use any other brand of fuel?

Give em time:rolleyes:


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Oct 13, 2016 04:30 |  #3830

STIC wrote in post #18155723 (external link)
Or...Canon could just go get F**ked!

Where do they get off deciding what brand of battery we should use?

Can you imagine buying a, for instance, FORD and then finding out it will only work with a FORD branded battery, and no third party equipment will work?

Or maybe, they do a deal with BP and you can't use any other brand of fuel?

Wait until cars are all electric ;)


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Oct 13, 2016 05:09 |  #3831

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I did a race shoot with it this weekend and shot JPEG, which is something i've never done for an entire race. I was happy to find that the JPEGS are almost as flexible as the RAW files are with the 5DMiv. I shot with RAW for about 15 minutes and after comparing those files with the JPEG's I can't see any reason for me to shoot RAW at least for sports with the Mark IV.


From files I've seen from a friends 5D4 (I don't have one, yet) in JPEG they're clean and with good colours. Still shooting +.7 as he was (and I am) with the 5D3.


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Oct 13, 2016 06:35 |  #3832

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Oct 13, 2016 09:22 |  #3833

STIC wrote in post #18155723 (external link)
Or...Canon could just go get F**ked!

Where do they get off deciding what brand of battery we should use?

Can you imagine buying a, for instance, FORD and then finding out it will only work with a FORD branded battery, and no third party equipment will work?

Or maybe, they do a deal with BP and you can't use any other brand of fuel?

Well, I can partly understand it from a manufacturer's perspective; if a faulty third party battery damaged your camera or charger you're unlikely to admit you weren't using an original, and so they end up covering the warranty for damage caused by someone else's faulty part.

On the flip side, it doesn't justify gouging when it comes to battery prices; hence the number of third party options available (as they can be made and sold at a much cheaper price).


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Oct 13, 2016 09:35 |  #3834

WIth most battery technology it wasn't as important what brand batter was used but given the spectacular failure mode of a Li-ion battery, I can see why manufacturers are concerned. THese batteries don't just damage the equipment, they destroy it.


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Oct 13, 2016 09:35 |  #3835

STIC wrote in post #18155723 (external link)
Or...Canon could just go get F**ked!

Where do they get off deciding what brand of battery we should use?

Can you imagine buying a, for instance, FORD and then finding out it will only work with a FORD branded battery, and no third party equipment will work?

Or maybe, they do a deal with BP and you can't use any other brand of fuel?

You mean like inkjet printer makers claiming DMCA violations when you use 3rd party ink cartridges? Canon is hardly the first company to protect a highly profitable revenue source with shady tactics.




  
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Oct 13, 2016 10:22 |  #3836

vk2gwk wrote in post #18155474 (external link)
My new charger - that came with the 5D4 - does not charge after market batteries. The older charger for my 5D3 has no problem with them and charges correctly.
Any others with the same experience?

my one charges third party batteries.


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Oct 13, 2016 10:23 |  #3837

gjl711 wrote in post #18155799 (external link)
WIth most battery technology it wasn't as important what brand batter was used but given the spectacular failure mode of a Li-ion battery, I can see why manufacturers are concerned. THese batteries don't just damage the equipment, they destroy it.

Agree. Just look at the Samsung note 7 - too many cases of battery catching on fire.

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Oct 13, 2016 10:25 |  #3838

RodS57 wrote in post #18155829 (external link)
Agree. Just look at the Samsung note 7 - too many cases of battery catching on fire.

Rod

Doesnt justify paying 10x the amount for a battery. Samsung own official battery for the old note 4 did not cost an arm and a leg


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Oct 13, 2016 10:28 |  #3839

RodS57 wrote in post #18155829 (external link)
Agree. Just look at the Samsung note 7 - too many cases of battery catching on fire.

Rod

And those were with manufacturer approved batteries. :)


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Oct 13, 2016 10:28 |  #3840

jonneymendoza wrote in post #18155832 (external link)
Doesnt justify paying 10x the amount for a battery. Samsung own official battery for the old note 4 did not cost an arm and a leg

10x?? Who are you, Donald Trump? :lol:




  
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