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Lens Jugling

 
Tom ­ Reichner
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Oct 28, 2016 19:00 |  #16

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I change lenses all the time, on the fly......while driving my car, walking, or dashing about in a hurried fashion. I never really thought about how I was doing it - it's one of those things that just happens - one of those things that your hands and fingers "just do" without your brain having to think about it.

If I am driving thru a wildlife refuge or national park, and see something from the road that is worth stopping for, and the "wrong" lens is on my camera, then, while I slow down and pull over onto the shoulder of the road, I change lenses at the same time, so that by the time I have brought the car to a stop, the correct lens is already on my camera. I do this, literally, hundreds of time every year.

I think that once you change lenses several hundred times, it just becomes second nature, and you will be able to do it within a couple of seconds, even while you are also doing something else. If you have trouble doing it quickly and mindlessly, then I suggest swapping lenses while you are at home.....yes, actually practice it, hundreds upon hundreds of times, in your living room or your den. Then, when it really matters and you are in the midst of a complex shoot, you will be able to do it on the fly, and not miss any opportunities.

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Oct 28, 2016 19:04 |  #17

Thanks everyone. I'll give all your techniques a try.


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Oct 28, 2016 19:24 |  #18

If you can afford it.........2 cameras. You can switch cameras much faster than you can switch a lens. For birding I like a 7D with 100-400, 1.4X and a 5d/70-200


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Oct 28, 2016 19:28 |  #19

dino211 wrote in post #18169890 (external link)
If you can afford it.........2 cameras. You can switch cameras much faster than you can switch a lens. For birding I like a 7D with 100-400, 1.4X and a 5d/70-200

I have an XSi amd 7D2and I wished I brought the XSi to Colorado earlier this year. Put the 50-500 on the 7D2 and a wide angle on the XSi.




  
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Oct 28, 2016 19:36 |  #20

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dino211 wrote in post #18169890 (external link)
You can switch cameras much faster than you can switch a lens.

Not necessarily. I believe that for me, switching lenses is faster than getting one camera out of the way and bringing the other one up into position. I've had two cameras on my person for many a shoot, and I am not convinced that it results in quicker changes than just having one camera and doing lens swaps.

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Oct 28, 2016 20:09 |  #21

Tom Reichner wrote in post #18169896 (external link)
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Not necessarily. I believe that for me, switching lenses is faster than getting one camera out of the way and bringing the other one up into position. I've had two cameras on my person for many a shoot, and I am not convinced that it results in quicker changes than just having one camera and doing lens swaps.

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I think it may be getting into the 'specialist' skill level, for you and similar folks, Tom. I suspect far more people have less use/opportunity for the practice that makes changing lenses like that such a second nature action; in which case I think a second body is still quicker for them. I'll wind up doing the two-hand shuffle, swapping from the 24-105/10-22 to the 100-400, on a tripod, where you also have to insert the step of removing the camera and mounting the lens on the collar, while my g/f stands there with her hands out to hold something and it always disconcerts her a little bit. Usually without really taking my eyes off the subject I've just spotted that I want the longer lens for. But, having done all of that for the better part of a decade and never having 2 active bodies at a time has simply led to that being "part of the process" so to speak. I'm definitely getting to a state where that swap is getting old and I'm considering adding a second body to the kit...not for speed, but just simplicity's sake :p


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Oct 29, 2016 16:59 |  #22

If I have to juggle lenses, then I use the dump-bag concept.

If I am on the move and am not setup from a table or something, then lenses get carried in individual pouches on a waist bag, with a larger pouch for the camera (with a lens on usually) that becomes the 'dump-bag' during changes.

A lens change becomes:
1. Open large pouch
2. Unmount current lens
3. Place current lens loosely in dump-bag. (Pull the zipper partly closed with the same motion as I go to reach for the next lens.)
4. Open new lens's pouch
5. While lens is still face down in its pouch, remove rear cap (And toss in half open main bag)
6. Pick up lens and put on camera. Remove front cap. (And toss in half open main bag)

Shoot as needed.

When the opportunity arises I will 'tidy up'. Recap the previous lens and move to a smaller pouch, and move loose caps from the dump bag into smaller pockets so they don't rattle around.

If I'm swapping a lot, then I'll often stash the caps completely and not use them. Just rely on keeping my lens pouches clean and free of lint, dirt, and debris.

However, I typically shoot with two cameras, of the same model, if I'm in a situation where it warrants the extra gear. In my mind the key is to keep actively using both cameras. If I'm lugging it along, then both cameras are on straps and already hanging from my shoulders. (Dual camera slings look goofy, but I really don't care what strangers happen to think of how it looks.) The disused camera often gets 'tucked into' its camera bag at my side, but switching to it is a quick flip to open the cover, then pick up and raise to my eye. The other camera can just be let go of if I have a smaller lens on even. The lens is already on, the camera is already configured, and possibly even already on and ready woken up by the time it is up to my eye, and settings are ball parked to where I expect to use it.


If I'm walking along and the conditions change for the camera 'in hand', then I'll pull the second camera out and ball park the settings again for that one as well.

I feel that the key to having 'a second camera' on hand is that you actively use the camera. If you treat it like an extra bit of kit stuffed in the bottom of the bag and not thought about until you actually need to use it, then odds are it isn't going to go smoothly for a fast transition. But I can't imagine how anyone could safely and reliably change a lens faster than "Lower camera A, raise camera B" gets.


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