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Oct 03, 2016 17:39 |  #1

Im shooting portraits for my daughter's band...

there is one girl who is legally blind. she wears really thick glasses but shes still pretty bad...

i have a few more images to make and i want to re-shoot her but i need to know what i can do short of removing her glasses altogether, to rectify this issue...

the frames and thickness just makes it look like she is a) posing for a tareyton cigarettes AND b) modeling racoon eye makeup...

ive got to do something but i dont know what. im using broad lighting with a fill light for the shadow side of their faces. should i add some up lighting to try and counteract these shadows?




  
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Oct 06, 2016 16:15 |  #2

Composite. Shoot her without the glasses, then with. Layer together and mask out the glass. Blend as needed.




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Oct 06, 2016 16:21 as a reply to  @ ParadisPhotography's post |  #3

rut ro....

i believe that to be above my pay grade (skill level)....




  
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Oct 06, 2016 17:42 |  #4

For regular near and far-sightedness when the distortion is either minification or magnification of they eyes behind the lenses, I commonly (as in nearly always) lasso the two lens areas, copy them together to a layer, rescale it carefully to natural size, and then trim them in place over the glasses. This retains the look of the glass over the eyes.

If her eyesight is more than moderately bad--bad enough that she never goes anywhere or does anything without them--photographing her without her glasses or with lensless frames won't really work well--her eyes will be unfocused and her expression will show her discomfort.

If the lenses are so thick that they eyes simply can't be seen clearly through them, it may be necessary to photograph with and without them and then composite. But two things about that: First, as you photograph without the glasses, be sure to have someone or something within range of being seen well enough for them to focus directly on it. Getting that focus is very important. Second, when compositing the bare eyes to the full image, be sure to reduce the opacity so that some of the "glass" look is retained.


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Oct 06, 2016 18:01 |  #5

Borrow some regular glasses so that she's in character. Don't let the edge of the face show through either lens, so shoot her more from the front.


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Oct 07, 2016 05:25 |  #6

windpig wrote in post #18150225 (external link)
Borrow some regular glasses so that she's in character. Don't let the edge of the face show through either lens, so shoot her more from the front.

I was thinking about this!

I found a pair of reading glasses that have very similar frames that im taking with me, for her to try on...

Won't be perfect but should be much better. The final image will only be immigration photo sized unless she/her parents opt for a print...


Thanks Paradis and RD for the ideas and tips...




  
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Oct 07, 2016 05:41 |  #7

Will the image be used for Visa?

If so I'd go with the upcoming change to photo requirements and take image without glasses.

To be sure of acceptance I'd aim for quite flat lighting.


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Oct 07, 2016 09:27 |  #8

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Will the image be used for Visa?

If so I'd go with the upcoming change to photo requirements and take image without glasses.

To be sure of acceptance I'd aim for quite flat lighting.


No these are student pictures of my daughter's school marching band...

They're going in a band yearbook...




  
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Oct 07, 2016 22:56 |  #9

Ltdave wrote in post #18150585 (external link)
I was thinking about this!

I found a pair of reading glasses that have very similar frames that im taking with me, for her to try on...

Won't be perfect but should be much better. The final image will only be immigration photo sized unless she/her parents opt for a print...

Thanks Paradis and RD for the ideas and tips...

the reading glasses did the trick. i made sure they were pushed up on the bridge of her nose to an appropriate spot and the results were more than satisfactory!

thanks everyone for discussing this with me!




  
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Nov 11, 2016 16:16 |  #10

Do you understand Angle of Incidence when working with lighting?

Check out the book MATTERS OF LIGHT AND DEPTH by Ross Lowel - the maker of Lowel Lights. It has a lot of information that can help. It is not a book of diagrams but a book of philosophy of lighting. Much of it geared to Hollywood top tier movie cinematographers who have to get it right with multi million dollar productions. Still work uses the same tecnniques - hot lights or strobes or LED's does not matter.

Light direction, quality and control is what is important. If your subject is at all cooperative you can get this done. Working with a stand in to get things set up and only putting the main subject in place once lighting is set will save a lot of time 'on set' with her and make you look professional. Get it set before you shoot so you don't waste time and look unsure of yourself at work.


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