Adobe CC Doesn't Work; I Need Something Else!

These days, on the other hand, even programs as specialized as PortraitPro (portrait retouching) and Qimage (printing) are accepting raw files, as if raw conversion was something that could be done by the way in whichever program is most needed in a given image's workflow.

As if raw conversion was nothing more than format conversion.

I should have mentioned.

It's possible to open the raw file directly in PhotoLine and perform there the raw conversion as well as all the edits seamlessly, but I prefer the conversion quality from DPP.

agedbriar wrote in post #18181442
I should have mentioned.

It's possible to open the raw file directly in PhotoLine and perform there the raw conversion as well as all the edits seamlessly, but I prefer the conversion quality from DPP.

One interesting aspect of the Photoline raw conversion is that the various conversion parameters (like white and black point, white balance, sharpen and NR, etc.) are part of the non-destructive layer stack (an adjustment layer) so you can always go back and edit them without having to use a kludge like a Smart Object to access the original raw conversion.

kirk

snegron wrote in post #18178755
Purchased a new HP laptop today with Windows 10. Decided to subscribe to Adobe for $10 a month to get access to Photoshop and Lightroom. The only programs this laptop is to have are Adobe CC and Adobe Lightroom.

I have spent the last 3+ hours trying to install the two apps on my new laptop. I gave up after several unsuccessful attempts, still at 45% completion of just one app after two hours!!!

Quite obvious Adobe CC is incompatable with Windows 10. I refuse to keep troubleshooting/fiddli​ng with my settings to try to install this useless application. It shouldn't have to be this difficult to simply install a program on your computer. I can't even begin to imagine all the problems I will have opening up a single RAW image (provided this app ever actually downloads onto my laptop sometime within this century). I am unsubscribing today.

Therefore, I need to find a photo editing program (please not anything made by Adobe, especially Lightroom). It needs to let me batch process RAW files and work with layers. Any suggestions?

A friend sent me a brand new HP laptop to get set up last week. My initial feelings were to send it back to the source. (I5 sixth gen). The amount of bloatware on the machine is absolutely mind boggling. I have a fast internet connection and the length of time that the new machine spent getting updates for HP software was a painful process. The first machine was returned to the store because if choked on the updates. The second machine is not much better....Personally I would never consider HP after this experience...

Trust me, it is not Adobe, it is HP. Look at the number of processes that are running in the background.

Regards,

110yd

Bloatware removal is a hassle but a rather minor one and, I think, well worth doing. Here's a good intro
http://www.makeuseof.c​om …ove-bloatware-windows-10/

snegron wrote in post #18179687
So far Photoshop is working on my HP. I don't plan to load anything else on it, so I'm hoping it will continue to work.

I haven't noticed any other glitches so far (then again, I haven't loaded any other programs). I'll give it a few more days. Probably will go out and shoot a ton of RAW pics this weekend to see how my HP handles it.

The biggest problem I had with Adobe CC was related to out-of-date video drivers. Make sure you have the latest drivers installed if Ps hangs or crashes.

I was given an HP computer. It was rubbish. Never could get the dame thing to work properly. Sadly Bloatware is a disease that has spread to most computer and phone manufacturers. I have a Lenovo that is dire (they used to great a few years ago). Every time I had to reinstall the OS I had to wrestle the bloatware off the machine. In the end I just gave up a bought a new copy of Win8 to use.

Your experience with the HP machine mirrors the experience I just had. HP seems to think that
a revenue stream from advertisers such as Amazon, The Microsoft Store and others is more
important than the $$ I paid. I won't own one, or recommend HP to a friend.

Regards,

110yd

Dan Marchant wrote in post #18183040
I was given an HP computer. It was rubbish. Never could get the dame thing to work properly. Sadly Bloatware is a disease that has spread to most computer and phone manufacturers. I have a Lenovo that is dire (they used to great a few years ago). Every time I had to reinstall the OS I had to wrestle the bloatware off the machine. In the end I just gave up a bought a new copy of Win8 to use.

Why didn't you just image the computer once you had it all cleaned out and setup the way you like it? You could be up and running after a reimage in a half hour.

flowrider wrote in post #18183279
Why didn't you just image the computer once you had it all cleaned out and setup the way you like it? You could be up and running after a reimage in a half hour.

Yeah, that would be the way to go. Or so you would think.

I imaged my Dell laptop when it was almost new and running nicely with all the essential programs installed. Then I contracted adware of some kind and was unable to get rid of it no matter what I tried. Solution: restore the image! But when I did that, I ended up with a clean install of Windows instead. OK, not a disaster, after several hours I had Windows reconfigured and my programs reinstalled. But it shows that these things are not simple and there can be surprises.

I used Macrium Reflect Free. When you create the image, there are a bunch of options and plenty of technical jargon. Why should it be so complicated? I just want to image what's on my computer. Anyway, what can you do ... select the options that seem to be the most logical and proceed. The prog gets busy and makes an impressive looking image file. But what is in it? We are not going to test it, are we?

No, we only find out if the backup was good when we need to restore the image. In my case it did not go correctly - no idea why.

After everything was running properly again, I made a new image. I haven't had to use it so far...

EDIT: Correction, that was Windows Recovery I used that time, not Macrium.

Yes there's always things you missed but that's why I said when you have it setup the way you like it. When I was on Windows machines I always imaged it complete with base programs such as LR, PS, MS Office, etc. It's a bigger image to store but way easier than reloading and activating.

With the Mac's no I just use SuperDuper and make a bootable image. I test it by changing it to my startup drive to be sure it works. The only thing that I ever have to sign into again is Dropbox for some reason.