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Nov 12, 2016 18:10 |  #14656

Not the best light but was trying new techniques like Wide Zone AF.

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Nov 12, 2016 19:21 |  #14657

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Nov 12, 2016 19:45 |  #14658

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Not sure I understand, Cropping the image has nothing to do with it being out of focus. I cropped to showcase the sequence easier.

Edit: Now you could easily say it front focused and I should micro adjust my lens but it also back focused several times. My point is it struggled to focus even though I was right on his face in perfectly good light. I moved my focusing point around slightly after viewing each image to try and see if it would grab focus anywhere else. My only guess is maybe the harsh sunlight on his face confused the AF.

Edit 2: Going through my images and the bigger the magnifcation I have on a subject the easier it is to grab focus however if your subject is smaller, The Auto Focus can have a harder time grabbing focus. This is a quote I read over at Canonrumors forums recently. I think this applies to my situation.

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yep very similar issue with mine also just so yu know its not just you and for a long time i thought it maybe was me as i am no expert but just too many oof shots - almost like the focus point jumps off or shifts at times and very tough to get crisp sharp images from it - my 600 d kills it frankly - mine has now gone back to teds camera stores in aus and hopefully on to canon sydney to see what they can do about it, if anything - when i bought it last year i had 14 days to swap it over but hesitated - bad mistake :rolleyes:

ps the sloth bear is with the 7dmk11 and 100 -400 m11 combo and the tiger is with the 600d and 100 - 400 mk 11 combo - and i know which i like best

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Nov 12, 2016 19:48 |  #14659

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Nov 12, 2016 20:00 |  #14660

patrol50 wrote in post #18182896 (external link)
yep very similar issue with mine also just so yu know its not just you and for a long time i thought it maybe was me as i am no expert but just too many oof shots - almost like the focus point jumps off or shifts at times and very tough to get crisp sharp images from it - my 600 d kills it frankly - mine has now gone back to teds camera stores in aus and hopefully on to canon sydney to see what they can do about it, if anything - when i bought it last year i had 14 days to swap it over but hesitated - bad mistake :rolleyes:

ps the sloth bear is with the 7dmk11 and 100 -400 m11 combo and the tiger is with the 600d and 100 - 400 mk 11 combo - and i know which i like best

cheers rob

Your post was followed immediately by the following. It's a bit ironic because obviously many get fantastic results with the 7D2 (or 7D11?).

If you are not getting the results expected from the 7D2, then possibly there is a problem with the camera, and it needs service. User error or problems with the subject are also possibilities.

The bear and tiger pics are apples and oranges. In the pic of the bear it is possible that the AF system was not able to find a lock in the dark body of the bear.


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Nov 12, 2016 20:19 |  #14661

patrol50 wrote in post #18182896 (external link)
yep very similar issue with mine also just so yu know its not just you and for a long time i thought it maybe was me as i am no expert but just too many oof shots - almost like the focus point jumps off or shifts at times and very tough to get crisp sharp images from it - my 600 d kills it frankly - mine has now gone back to teds camera stores in aus and hopefully on to canon sydney to see what they can do about it, if anything - when i bought it last year i had 14 days to swap it over but hesitated - bad mistake :rolleyes:

ps the sloth bear is with the 7dmk11 and 100 -400 m11 combo and the tiger is with the 600d and 100 - 400 mk 11 combo - and i know which i like best

cheers rob

I also wouldn't discount motion blur from the bear moving... it appears to be walking. 1/500 @ 400mm on the 7D2 is not really enough to negate motion blur...it looks like IS has done a good job on camera shake as there are lots of sharp 'static' components in the photo.

The other shot with 1/250 @ 200mm on the slightly less dense sensor of the 600D gives a much better chance of eliminating motion blur, and the tiger appears to have paused forward motion to look around.

Discounting motion blur the other question is where on the bear was the focus point? If it was bang smack in the middle then there is not a lot of contrast for the AF to work with in all that monotone black... with the tiger there are all the stripes for the AF point(s) to work with.

It would be good to see how the 600D went with the bear and the 7D2 went with the tiger.

Not saying your 7D2 doesn't have a problem, just throwing a couple of thoughts out there.


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Nov 12, 2016 20:38 |  #14662

Archibald wrote in post #18182907 (external link)
Your post was followed immediately by the following. It's a bit ironic because obviously many get fantastic results with the 7D2 (or 7D11?).
If you are not getting the results expected from the 7D2, then possibly there is a problem with the camera, and it needs service. User error or problems with the subject are also possibilities.

The bear and tiger pics are apples and oranges. In the pic of the bear i as i dont totally disagree with yu t is possible that the AF system was not able to find a lock in the dark body of the bear.

ok but i recall we have disagreed in the past over jeffs problematical camera and frankly i consider yu very pro canon and i pretty much down grade your views on this type of issue - but i will respond on this occasion

both animals have dark to mid dark bodies and the bear of course was outlined against a lighter coloured rock area whereas the tiger was in darker undergrowth and grass but the sloth bear should have been sharper than it is imo and i have about 20 shots similar to this of the bear and not one is really sharp (whereas the guy with me with decent nikon set up really nailed it )and then i have about 20 shots of the tiger all pretty damn sharp and that goes on and on for so many photos i have taken with the two cameras and the same interchangeable lenses in the past 6 month to a year

but have delayed sending it down for checking and service and this damn camera makes yu second guess yourself - but when its not right you just kind of know its not right and as we all now know there seems to be quite a few with this issue of a slightly oof or soft shot problem

my hope is that canon sydney sort it out and when it comes back it is mickey mouse or else on ebay it goes

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Nov 12, 2016 21:01 as a reply to  @ graham121's post |  #14663

yes graham 121 much of what you say is pretty right and no issue there and the ss was a bit low and the bear may have moved a touch as it was feeding but not in all 20 shots i reckon - as i recall the focus point on that shot is on the bears head and nose where there is some contrast but i will check that again in dpp - and i think the focus on the tiger with the 600 D was on the mid high back and partly on its back line against the bush behind - a shot i probably could not really do with the 7d mk 11 because of its tendency to grab the wrong place with the very sensitive focus

as i said the damn 7d mk 11 makes yu second guess yourself each time it misses focus and i used it the first day of safari in india and of 100 shots 90 are soft or oof and - then i switched to my back up 600 D and about 90 % of about 500 shots are ok - so this time i bit the bullet and off it went for assessment and hopeful repair if possible

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Nov 12, 2016 21:17 |  #14664


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Nov 12, 2016 21:18 as a reply to  @ patrol50's post |  #14665

I do feel your pain Rob, Its very hard to get the same feel of the problem across in a forum because of the many ways to justify the out come. I think you did the best thing in sending to off. I know it was the only way to get to the bottom of the problem for me. If i had lived with the problem I would have waisted the last year. Remember that its just a camera and no one will die...although at time's ?? lol.... I'm sure they will get to the bottom of it.


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Nov 12, 2016 21:26 |  #14666

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Nov 12, 2016 21:31 |  #14667

and yes i agree a fine shot and shows what the 7d mk 11 can do which makes it even more frustrating fo r those of us that cant get that type of result - and boy i like that lens;-)a

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Nov 12, 2016 23:00 |  #14668

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I'll offer two cents worth of advice, I believe this image becomes much stronger if you crop just below the closer reflection to the flamingo eliminating the extra dead space and second reflection. See if you like it.




  
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Nov 13, 2016 01:08 as a reply to  @ post 18182742 |  #14669

I looked at your pics in this thread and I think they are completely OK. Maybe it is a personal taste as well, I personally do not like oversharpened images, yours look good as they are.
One suggestion is to change your shutter speed from the current 1/1250, I think for human movement you do not need this fast. 1/500 - 1/800 might give you the same frozen motion but with a lower ISO which helps with the noise. I mostly shoot fast animals, with thoroughbred horses quite often 1/640 - 1/800 is enough to freeze motion, with greyhounds I might need to go to 1/1500 - 1/2000.
I saw one pic which was not that sharp but I think there it was rather the depth of field which was too narrow to cover the whole subject. With close-ups you might need to change your aperture to 3.5 - 4 to get a whole face, bodyparts in focus.


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Nov 13, 2016 01:12 as a reply to  @ patrol50's post |  #14670

Hi Rob,

Sure sounds like more than motion blur!! Hopefully Canon Sydney can recreate the issue and fix whatever is causing it. Do let us know how you go; I do hope it gets resolved for you so you can appreciate and enjoy using it rather than having to second guess each time.


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