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Oct 26, 2016 22:38 |  #1

Currently using two 1Dx as my main bodies but I'm feeling the need to add another body to cover hockey. Don't really want to spend the money on another 1Dx.

So, what is a cheaper canon body that can focus quickly to keep up with athletes?

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Oct 27, 2016 15:40 |  #2

1D Mark IV


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Oct 27, 2016 15:50 |  #3

I'd consider the 1D IV too but I would also give the 7D2 a shot at it.


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Oct 27, 2016 22:58 |  #4

I would also recommend the 7D2. AF is very similar to the 1DX, and with throwing a crop in the mix you can get some extra variety of focal lengths.

Here's a comparison of the autofocus capability of the 7D2, 1DX, and 5D3:
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Nov 10, 2016 08:28 |  #5

nqjudo wrote in post #18168736 (external link)
I'd consider the 1D IV too but I would also give the 7D2 a shot at it.

The 7D II is nowhere near what the 1D MkIV is. Added benefit is that the MkIV has the same 'feel' as your pro bodies. Makes for less confusion when you are trying to work smoothly and quickly.


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Nov 10, 2016 08:52 |  #6

I have a 1DX and a 7DII as a back up. Unless your stadiums are well lit the ISO performance on the 7DII is not up to the 1DX. It also does not focus or track quit as well. But... It is a very god body in good to decent light. I like the 7DII better for birds and wild life because of the crop factor. In good light for sports it is 90% what the 1DX is for a fraction of the cost.


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Nov 13, 2016 20:41 |  #7

Deardorff wrote in post #18180769 (external link)
The 7D II is nowhere near what the 1D MkIV is. Added benefit is that the MkIV has the same 'feel' as your pro bodies. Makes for less confusion when you are trying to work smoothly and quickly.

You are crazy! 7D Mark II is leap years ahead of the 1D Mark IV. My keeper rate was much higher on the 7D Mark II than the 1D Mark IV. Sure you get longer battery life and a proper grip but AF is on par with the 1DX and you can set up the 7D Mark II to match the 1DX settings. Also 1D Mark IV used prices are insane, You can get a brand new 7D Mark II for cheaper. I would go for the 7D Mark II or 5D Mark III.


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Nov 13, 2016 22:12 |  #8

Deardorff wrote in post #18180769 (external link)
The 7D II is nowhere near what the 1D MkIV is. Added benefit is that the MkIV has the same 'feel' as your pro bodies. Makes for less confusion when you are trying to work smoothly and quickly.

Well, that's an opinion. I prefer the 7D2s feature set and the fact that it has live servo focus - a huge feature for folks who want video. Less confusion? Humans are the most adaptable species on the planet. Moving between two bodies is easy. Some people move between entirely different systems and do fine. The truth is that the two are so close it is probably going to be decided on feel. One will just feel better than the other. Results in terms of IQ are pretty much a wash. Use what you like. They are both good choices.


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Nov 13, 2016 22:29 |  #9

Won't three be a bit hard to juggle?


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Nov 17, 2016 15:01 |  #10

Since you've already had the 1d mark iv know what it can do, I'd rent the 7dm2 to see how it fares.

Better yet, I sign up for CPS Gold specifically for their evaluation loan program. Can basically request any gear one time for the cost of shipping it back to them (+ $100 annual fee).


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Nov 18, 2016 05:05 |  #11

Thank you everyone for taking the time to respond. I've decided to wait until I can put together the funds for a new 1Dx II.


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Nov 20, 2016 07:41 |  #12

DJHaze596 wrote in post #18183651 (external link)
You are crazy! 7D Mark II is leap years ahead of the 1D Mark IV. My keeper rate was much higher on the 7D Mark II than the 1D Mark IV. Sure you get longer battery life and a proper grip but AF is on par with the 1DX and you can set up the 7D Mark II to match the 1DX settings. Also 1D Mark IV used prices are insane, You can get a brand new 7D Mark II for cheaper. I would go for the 7D Mark II or 5D Mark III.

Sorry, I'll stick with the 1D MkIV all day long. It isn't about cost, it is about results and the 1 series produces them well. You do get what you pay for.


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Nov 24, 2016 00:03 |  #13

John wrote in post #18187318 (external link)
Since you've already had the 1d mark iv know what it can do, I'd rent the 7dm2 to see how it fares.

Better yet, I sign up for CPS Gold specifically for their evaluation loan program. Can basically request any gear one time for the cost of shipping it back to them (+ $100 annual fee).

How long do they usually let you borrow the gear for? There's a few lenses I would like to try out and this might be a good way to do it.


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Dec 15, 2016 20:52 |  #14

Here's a comparison I did between the Canon 1D4 and the 7D2.

Noise wise the 7D2 cleaned up better than the 1D4.

What I didn't mention in the article was that the focus of the 7D2 was terrible compared to the 1D4 and 5D3 on a 400 f2.8 lens.

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Jan 04, 2017 16:59 |  #15

Deardorff wrote in post #18189620 (external link)
Sorry, I'll stick with the 1D MkIV all day long. It isn't about cost, it is about results and the 1 series produces them well. You do get what you pay for.

Yeah, I just bumped up to the 1D4 from the 1D3, and I'm loving it. It's as fast as the 1D3, holds focus a little better (or follows custom settings better?), and has great IQ and some crop room when needed.

Plus, the 1D4 is cheaper than a new 7D2... I got mine for $400 less with 25K clicks on it.


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