Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Sony Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Sony Cameras 
Thread started 27 May 2015 (Wednesday) 18:49
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

Sony A7x lounge

 
mystik610
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
8,624 posts
Gallery: 32 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 8453
Joined Jan 2012
Location: Houston, TX
     
Nov 21, 2016 14:57 |  #27361

I wonder how much the Batis 85's bokeh improves if EFCS is turned off.


focalpointsphoto.com (external link) - flickr (external link) - Instagram (external link)
α7ʀII - RX1ʀII - α7ʀIII
Zeiss Loxia 21 - Canon 24-70 2.8LII - Sony/Zeiss 35 f1.4 ZA - Sony 50 1.8 - Sony 85GM - Sigma 135 f1.8 ART

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
xpfloyd
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
12,683 posts
Gallery: 591 photos
Best ofs: 7
Likes: 7568
Joined Feb 2011
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
     
Nov 21, 2016 15:08 |  #27362

mystik610 wrote in post #18190863 (external link)
I wonder how much the Batis 85's bokeh improves if EFCS is turned off.

That's what I'm now wondering. I keep EFCS on 100% of the time but what is the actual benefit of it apart from a quieter shutter? I'm wondering if I should just disable it


Eddie | flickr (external link)| gear
α7R III | Mavic 2 Pro | Osmo Pocket | GoPro Hero 7 Black
CV15 | Loxia 21 | Batis 25 | CV40 | Batis 85 | Tamron 28-75

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
mystik610
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
8,624 posts
Gallery: 32 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 8453
Joined Jan 2012
Location: Houston, TX
     
Nov 21, 2016 15:13 |  #27363

xpfloyd wrote in post #18190869 (external link)
That's what I'm now wondering. I keep EFCS on 100% of the time but what is the actual benefit of it apart from a quieter shutter? I'm wondering if I should just disable it

Well for slow shutter speeds and/or long focal lengths it completely eliminates shutter shock so there is a benefit.

Also the shading thing has me wondering if the struggles I've had in a studio shooting infinity white were caused by EFCS.

I used to always used EFCS, but now it seems like something you use when you need it and turn it off when you don't.


focalpointsphoto.com (external link) - flickr (external link) - Instagram (external link)
α7ʀII - RX1ʀII - α7ʀIII
Zeiss Loxia 21 - Canon 24-70 2.8LII - Sony/Zeiss 35 f1.4 ZA - Sony 50 1.8 - Sony 85GM - Sigma 135 f1.8 ART

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
xpfloyd
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
12,683 posts
Gallery: 591 photos
Best ofs: 7
Likes: 7568
Joined Feb 2011
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
     
Nov 21, 2016 15:35 |  #27364

It would be easy for Sony to implement an auto switch off of this feature if a certain shutter speed is met but there's probably more chance of the a7riii being released at £100

mystik610 wrote in post #18190872 (external link)
Well for slow shutter speeds and/or long focal lengths it completely eliminates shutter shock so there is a benefit.

Also the shading thing has me wondering if the struggles I've had in a studio shooting infinity white were caused by EFCS.

I used to always used EFCS, but now it seems like something you use when you need it and turn it off when you don't.


Eddie | flickr (external link)| gear
α7R III | Mavic 2 Pro | Osmo Pocket | GoPro Hero 7 Black
CV15 | Loxia 21 | Batis 25 | CV40 | Batis 85 | Tamron 28-75

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
David ­ Arbogast
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
11,151 posts
Gallery: 36 photos
Likes: 7622
Joined Aug 2010
Location: West Point, Georgia
Post edited over 2 years ago by David Arbogast.
     
Nov 21, 2016 15:49 |  #27365

xpfloyd wrote in post #18190869 (external link)
That's what I'm now wondering. I keep EFCS on 100% of the time but what is the actual benefit of it apart from a quieter shutter? I'm wondering if I should just disable it

I switched mine off yesterday and felt the shutter wasn't that loud - still quieter than the old a7R. Think I might try just keeping mine off now.

mystik610 wrote in post #18190872 (external link)
I used to always used EFCS, but now it seems like something you use when you need it and turn it off when you don't.

When would it be ideal to have it on? I remember the shutter shock complaints with the a7R - that a EFCS would fix it, but not sure what it's useful for beyond that.


David | Flickr (external link)
Sony α7R II | CV 12mm, FE 12-24mm, Loxia 21mm, Loxia 35mm, CV 40mm, FE 50mm ZA, Loxia 85mm, Batis 85mm, Batis 135mm

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
xpfloyd
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
12,683 posts
Gallery: 591 photos
Best ofs: 7
Likes: 7568
Joined Feb 2011
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
     
Nov 21, 2016 16:13 |  #27366

I just had a moment of braveness and decided to update the firmware on both bodies. Thankfully it went smoothly.

On another note the good news is the a7rii still opens the aperture to achieve focus which is the thing I was worried was lost with v3.3


Eddie | flickr (external link)| gear
α7R III | Mavic 2 Pro | Osmo Pocket | GoPro Hero 7 Black
CV15 | Loxia 21 | Batis 25 | CV40 | Batis 85 | Tamron 28-75

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
digital_AM
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
7,362 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 11110
Joined Dec 2010
Location: Texas
Post edited over 2 years ago by digital_AM. (2 edits in all)
     
Nov 21, 2016 19:45 |  #27367

xpfloyd wrote in post #18190916 (external link)
I just had a moment of braveness and decided to update the firmware on both bodies. Thankfully it went smoothly.

On another note the good news is the a7rii still opens the aperture to achieve focus which is the thing I was worried was lost with v3.3

That's good needs Eddie. I upgraded my Metabones adapter and camera last week.

On another topic:

Interesting observation about shooting with an UWA lens. Without the luxury of a tilt shift lens, I would normally stitch multiple images in post which was sometimes an exercise in frustration. This morning with the 12mm lens I was able to capture an entire building in portrait mode in a single frame. This comes with some negative consequences that include cropping a portion of the frame. I guess it's a poor man's tilt-shift lens. The key is to keep a level ball head and a level head (on your shoulders) in the field.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
genesimmons
Goldmember
Avatar
1,959 posts
Gallery: 5 photos
Likes: 1138
Joined Aug 2013
Location: bc canada
     
Nov 21, 2016 22:46 |  #27368

how many users would do this with their a7??

https://www.youtube.co​m …_detailpage&v=P​vD4kbo976Y (external link)


OLYMPUS EM1 M2. 12-100 F4 PRO.75mm f1.8,fisheye f1.8 pro. SONY A7 various manual lenses. FUJI X100
https://www.flickr.com​/photos/100085318@N08/ (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
xpfloyd
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
12,683 posts
Gallery: 591 photos
Best ofs: 7
Likes: 7568
Joined Feb 2011
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
     
Nov 22, 2016 00:46 |  #27369

digital_AM wrote in post #18191085 (external link)
That's good needs Eddie. I upgraded my Metabones adapter and camera last week.

On another topic:

Interesting observation about shooting with an UWA lens. Without the luxury of a tilt shift lens, I would normally stitch multiple images in post which was sometimes an exercise in frustration. This morning with the 12mm lens I was able to capture an entire building in portrait mode in a single frame. This comes with some negative consequences that include cropping a portion of the frame. I guess it's a poor man's tilt-shift lens. The key is to keep a level ball head and a level head (on your shoulders) in the field.

Another benefit of 42 MP. Crop the foreground and still have plenty of mega pickles left over


Eddie | flickr (external link)| gear
α7R III | Mavic 2 Pro | Osmo Pocket | GoPro Hero 7 Black
CV15 | Loxia 21 | Batis 25 | CV40 | Batis 85 | Tamron 28-75

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
MedicineMan4040
The Magic Johnson of Cameras
Avatar
17,298 posts
Gallery: 1731 photos
Best ofs: 7
Likes: 51216
Joined Jul 2013
Post edited over 2 years ago by MedicineMan4040.
     
Nov 22, 2016 00:54 |  #27370

xpfloyd wrote in post #18190792 (external link)
My a6300 came today. I just noticed in the menu (which I missed the first time I had this camera briefly) that you can change the viewfinder refresh rate to 100fps instead of the default 60fps. Is there any reason why I shouldnt keep this set at 100fps all the time? battery life maybe?

Eddie we only shoot wildlife and for AF-tracking 120fps refresh is nice. Sucks if you forget to switch from 60 and suddenly you need to track a bird....so we keep it on 120. Granted
that is a limited use/perspective. Ooops. 100, well I'm at work and thought it was 120.


flickr (external link)
Vid Collection: https://www.youtube.co​m/user/medicineman4040 (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
xpfloyd
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
12,683 posts
Gallery: 591 photos
Best ofs: 7
Likes: 7568
Joined Feb 2011
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
     
Nov 22, 2016 01:14 |  #27371

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #18191311 (external link)
Eddie we only shoot wildlife and for AF-tracking 120fps refresh is nice. Sucks if you forget to switch from 60 and suddenly you need to track a bird....so we keep it on 120. Granted
that is a limited use/perspective. Ooops. 100, well I'm at work and thought it was 120.

I've just set it to 100fps and will keep it there and see if I can spot any negatives in use. The fact there's a 60fps option makes me think there must be a negative. Just can't think what it would be


Eddie | flickr (external link)| gear
α7R III | Mavic 2 Pro | Osmo Pocket | GoPro Hero 7 Black
CV15 | Loxia 21 | Batis 25 | CV40 | Batis 85 | Tamron 28-75

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
MedicineMan4040
The Magic Johnson of Cameras
Avatar
17,298 posts
Gallery: 1731 photos
Best ofs: 7
Likes: 51216
Joined Jul 2013
Post edited over 2 years ago by MedicineMan4040.
     
Nov 22, 2016 01:16 |  #27372

xpfloyd wrote in post #18191316 (external link)
I've just set it to 100fps and will keep it there and see if I can spot any negatives in use. The fact there's a 60fps option makes me think there must be a negative. Just can't think what it would be

I agree with your guess that it's battery life. Has to be.


flickr (external link)
Vid Collection: https://www.youtube.co​m/user/medicineman4040 (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
TMaG82
Goldmember
Avatar
1,118 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 443
Joined Jun 2008
     
Nov 22, 2016 05:20 |  #27373

xpfloyd wrote in post #18190792 (external link)
My a6300 came today. I just noticed in the menu (which I missed the first time I had this camera briefly) that you can change the viewfinder refresh rate to 100fps instead of the default 60fps. Is there any reason why I shouldnt keep this set at 100fps all the time? battery life maybe?

Battery life. It'll cut short the already terrible battery life to horrid. Maybe a 20-30% cut in battery life.


Current Gear: Sony a6400, Sony 18-105 f/4, Sony 20mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm f/1.4, Sigma 56mm f/1.4
HEX Brand Ranger Clamshell Backpack, Ranger Sling

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
TRhoads
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
6,679 posts
Gallery: 372 photos
Best ofs: 3
Likes: 8504
Joined Jun 2009
Location: Roswell, Georgia
     
Nov 22, 2016 05:34 |  #27374

genesimmons wrote in post #18191231 (external link)
how many users would do this with their a7??

https://www.youtube.co​m …_detailpage&v=P​vD4kbo976Y (external link)

um...no. I don't think I would do that to any camera...because I have bad luck...I will say, my Canon 7D has been used in heavy rain at the racetrack and the camera came out fine...a memory card that I changed in that rain..not so much.


Gear List & Feedback | SmugMug Page (external link) | Flickr (external link) | Facebook (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
MedicineMan4040
The Magic Johnson of Cameras
Avatar
17,298 posts
Gallery: 1731 photos
Best ofs: 7
Likes: 51216
Joined Jul 2013
     
Nov 22, 2016 06:26 as a reply to  @ TRhoads's post |  #27375

and I though memory ...well SD...cards could even survive the ocean floor.


flickr (external link)
Vid Collection: https://www.youtube.co​m/user/medicineman4040 (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

3,825,161 views & 33,336 likes for this thread
Sony A7x lounge
FORUMS Sony Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Sony Cameras 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is JohnBonney
978 guests, 341 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.