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Nov 22, 2016 06:40 |  #27376

There's a video of a Russian guy running an a7 under a faucet and shooting with it afterwards.


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Nov 22, 2016 06:56 |  #27377

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #18191413 (external link)
and I though memory ...well SD...cards could even survive the ocean floor.

The problem is making a card wet and another is running electricity through it. Sandisks cards for example can survive a week left in a glass of water but if you want to use it you have to wait until it is completely dried out.


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Nov 22, 2016 07:07 |  #27378

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #18191413 (external link)
and I though memory ...well SD...cards could even survive the ocean floor.

I am not really sure how it got wet...honestly not 100% sure that was what caused the failure...just an assumption...only CF card I have ever had fail...of course it had some epic rain racing photos on it...:cry:

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The problem is making a card wet and another is running electricity through it. Sandisks cards for example can survive a week left in a glass of water but if you want to use it you have to wait until it is completely dried out.

that is pretty impressive...


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Nov 22, 2016 07:43 |  #27379

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Battery life. It'll cut short the already terrible battery life to horrid. Maybe a 20-30% cut in battery life.

Already terrible?? Same battery that's in my a7rii and it's fine


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Nov 22, 2016 07:47 |  #27380

heres a interesting review challenging the newest a6500 against the newest em1m2 very interesting comparison.

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Nov 22, 2016 09:31 |  #27381

I have still not yet touched my lens lineup since a year and havent bought anything new. Im not even going out a lot with the camera... i hope i can get a little more motivation to get out and shoot in the coming weeks when work and personal stuff is going to get more quite.

In the meantime, i renewed my phone carrier contract which allows me to pick up an iphone 7 plus 256gb for a dollar. Why not new gear for that price :p

Im actually against all those iphone photographers but i noticed its the only camera i always have with me. It also seems the new iphone cameras are pretty fantastic, capture raw and have a second camera with the same resolution but with a longer lens. The primary lens also has stabilization which is always welcomed. Im kind of impatient now even thought its not a "real" camera. I hope it lives up to my expectations.


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Nov 22, 2016 09:39 |  #27382

davidfarina wrote in post #18191542 (external link)
I have still not yet touched my lens lineup since a year and havent bought anything new. Im not even going out a lot with the camera... i hope i can get a little more motivation to get out and shoot in the coming weeks when work and personal stuff is going to get more quite.

In the meantime, i renewed my phone carrier contract which allows me to pick up an iphone 7 plus 256gb for a dollar. Why not new gear for that price :p

Im actually against all those iphone photographers but i noticed its the only camera i always have with me. It also seems the new iphone cameras are pretty fantastic, capture raw and have a second camera with the same resolution but with a longer lens. The primary lens also has stabilization which is always welcomed. Im kind of impatient now even thought its not a "real" camera. I hope it lives up to my expectations.

My wife has the 7 plus. It all sounds good on paper, until you actually start to process the raws and they fall apart the minute you touch a slider. The portrait mode looks really unnatural too....good enough for most people, but the effect isn't going to fool anyone who knows what real subject isolation is supposed to look like....the shift from the in focus to out of focus areas is very unnatural.

Great camera for snapshots though and there's a lot of value in having a camera that is literally on you all of the time. I actually shoot a lot of photos and videos on my phone, but nothing is ever as good as carrying a dedicated camera.


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Nov 22, 2016 09:49 |  #27383

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Kind of a long winded video. Skip the first 4.5 minutes to get to the meat. I do agree with a couple of the drawbacks including max SS of 1/4000 and max sync speed of 1/160. These are two things that I might grump about. But oh well....I'm committed now! The other two things, duel cared slot and the video function I couldn't care about. Admittedly I didn't do a ton of research. How does the lens lineup for the oly compare to the sony? Sony seems to have a pretty good selection...particular​ly prime lenses (Of course this is where I'll feel the slower max SS).

https://photography-on-the.net …d.php?t=1430203​&page=1826

Olympus has a Pro line, a Premium line, and a value line of lenses. Also compatible with Panasonic lenses as well. Wide angle, 2.8 standard zooms, and telephoto options. Some real standout lenses as well such as the 75mm f/1.8. A full line of 1.8 lenses and a few 1.4 or 1.2. Where they lack is the real wide angle options, but that is partly because of the crop factor. You have two 7-14 UWA options which are 14-28 equivalents, but no AF lenses with real wide angle (I don't consider the 8mm fisheye to be a staple lens). They could use a 14 or 18 equivalent prime but doesn't exist yet. Sony has a decent selection of lenses but less so on the native APS-C range. Relied on FE lenses which were an issue because of lack of OIS, but IBIS should help. I wouldn't expect IBIS on the a6500 to be as good as the one on the E-M1 II.

It's interesting to read how poorly the touch screen implementation is on the a6500 according to dpreview, especially since Sony has a lot of experience with making cell phones. It seems like that's the biggest negative with the camera.


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Nov 22, 2016 10:06 |  #27384

mystik610 wrote in post #18191547 (external link)
My wife has the 7 plus. It all sounds good on paper, until you actually start to process the raws and they fall apart the minute you touch a slider. The portrait mode looks really unnatural too....good enough for most people, but the effect isn't going to fool anyone who knows what real subject isolation is supposed to look like....the shift from the in focus to out of focus areas is very unnatural.

Great camera for snapshots though and there's a lot of value in having a camera that is literally on you all of the time. I actually shoot a lot of photos and videos on my phone, but nothing is ever as good as carrying a dedicated camera.

Of course those cameras will never be a replacement for us dedicated photo, dare i say freaks.

But i think its not that far away from those P&S cameras anymore. For what it is, i bet the camera is good enough. Plus, i cant watch movies, browse the web or call a friend on my A7RII :p

Funny isthought, that i said to myself when i got the iphone 6 that screen size is now on the max for me. Now i got the iphone 7 plus coming in because i didnt like watching movies and browsing on the small screen of the iphone 6. we get used to things so fast it seems. Imagine phones in a few years. Me speaking on the phone with a friend on a prototype of the iphone 10 plus plus ;)


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Nov 22, 2016 10:19 |  #27385

Hey guys. Managed to get out this past weekend up here in New England before the last trees decided to drop their leaves. Found a little area near my house where there were a few trees that still had leaves. They actually all just dropped yesterday after a big cold spell. Pretty sad that the winter is upon us.

Anyway, I actually managed to convince my two little ones to let me take some shots for a potential X-Mas card. This is actually my backup, I am trying something else out but don't know how that will turn out. So I have these if things don't work out with my other idea. Just want your opinions as to whether you prefer the uncropped or cropped versions of these. Also, which image do you feel would work best for the main X-Mas card image. My wife prefers the cropped. I tend to prefer the uncropped, but that might just be because I enjoy the scenery and negative space, but I understand that she wants to kids to be up big so people can really see them. I would be printing them on 9" x 6" stock. I forgot how quickly the sun sets this time of year (4:30 pm) and couldn't manage to get as many shots of the great backlighting I had on the foreground for the set of images I took. It went down too fast. I managed one good pic with that lighting though. Feel free to offer any constructive criticism as well. I know I have a lot to learn.

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Nov 22, 2016 11:00 |  #27386

davidfarina wrote in post #18191573 (external link)
Of course those cameras will never be a replacement for us dedicated photo, dare i say freaks.

But i think its not that far away from those P&S cameras anymore. For what it is, i bet the camera is good enough. Plus, i cant watch movies, browse the web or call a friend on my A7RII :p

Funny isthought, that i said to myself when i got the iphone 6 that screen size is now on the max for me. Now i got the iphone 7 plus coming in because i didnt like watching movies and browsing on the small screen of the iphone 6. we get used to things so fast it seems. Imagine phones in a few years. Me speaking on the phone with a friend on a prototype of the iphone 10 plus plus ;)
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Oh yeah definitely P&S caliber....but definitely not more than that so I never understood the need for RAW file output since the files have no latitude in them.


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Nov 22, 2016 11:00 |  #27387

cc1995 wrote in post #18191587 (external link)
Hey guys. Managed to get out this past weekend up here in New England before the last trees decided to drop their leaves. Found a little area near my house where there were a few trees that still had leaves. They actually all just dropped yesterday after a big cold spell. Pretty sad that the winter is upon us.

Anyway, I actually managed to convince my two little ones to let me take some shots for a potential X-Mas card. This is actually my backup, I am trying something else out but don't know how that will turn out. So I have these if things don't work out with my other idea. Just want your opinions as to whether you prefer the uncropped or cropped versions of these. Also, which image do you feel would work best for the main X-Mas card image. My wife prefers the cropped. I tend to prefer the uncropped, but that might just be because I enjoy the scenery and negative space, but I understand that she wants to kids to be up big so people can really see them. I would be printing them on 9" x 6" stock. I forgot how quickly the sun sets this time of year (4:30 pm) and couldn't manage to get as many shots of the great backlighting I had on the foreground for the set of images I took. It went down too fast. I managed one good pic with that lighting though. Feel free to offer any constructive criticism as well. I know I have a lot to learn.

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Nov 22, 2016 11:57 |  #27388

mystik610 wrote in post #18191547 (external link)
My wife has the 7 plus. It all sounds good on paper, until you actually start to process the raws and they fall apart the minute you touch a slider. The portrait mode looks really unnatural too....good enough for most people, but the effect isn't going to fool anyone who knows what real subject isolation is supposed to look like....the shift from the in focus to out of focus areas is very unnatural.

Great camera for snapshots though and there's a lot of value in having a camera that is literally on you all of the time. I actually shoot a lot of photos and videos on my phone, but nothing is ever as good as carrying a dedicated camera.


has any one tried the new motorola z withe hasselbald attachment,it shoots in raw and has a incredible 10x optical zoom and has all the features of a decent point and shoot,its the coolest looking phone camera i have seen to date


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Nov 22, 2016 12:02 |  #27389

TMaG82 wrote in post #18191559 (external link)
https://photography-on-the.net …d.php?t=1430203​&page=1826

Olympus has a Pro line, a Premium line, and a value line of lenses. Also compatible with Panasonic lenses as well. Wide angle, 2.8 standard zooms, and telephoto options. Some real standout lenses as well such as the 75mm f/1.8. A full line of 1.8 lenses and a few 1.4 or 1.2. Where they lack is the real wide angle options, but that is partly because of the crop factor. You have two 7-14 UWA options which are 14-28 equivalents, but no AF lenses with real wide angle (I don't consider the 8mm fisheye to be a staple lens). They could use a 14 or 18 equivalent prime but doesn't exist yet. Sony has a decent selection of lenses but less so on the native APS-C range. Relied on FE lenses which were an issue because of lack of OIS, but IBIS should help. I wouldn't expect IBIS on the a6500 to be as good as the one on the E-M1 II.

It's interesting to read how poorly the touch screen implementation is on the a6500 according to dpreview, especially since Sony has a lot of experience with making cell phones. It seems like that's the biggest negative with the camera.

yes the new improved ibis in the oly is sick,i seen some samples of a 8second hand held and it was decent sharp,8 seconds hand held are u kidding me wow. also the 60 frames per second is insane,the sample showed a archer shoot an arrow and the cam captured the arrow hitting the balloon and peircing the balloon even before it popped,wow thats fast, the 12-100 f2,8 pro lens has had great reviews,i think i found my xmas present to myself


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Nov 22, 2016 12:28 |  #27390

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has any one tried the new motorola z withe hasselbald attachment,it shoots in raw and has a incredible 10x optical zoom and has all the features of a decent point and shoot,its the coolest looking phone camera i have seen to date

I actually have the moto z and have looked at the hasselblad mod, but wish they had gone with a 1 inch sensor and a prime lens instead. If I see the hasselblad mod on sale one day I'll grab it though.


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