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Nov 29, 2016 22:19 |  #4951

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I have been watching this thread since its inception and have been amazed at what I have seen by all of you, and of course, the lens.

So, I have a question...

I just bought one and I am wondering which setting to use, either the FULL or the 3m on distance and close-ups. I know, noob stuff, but it'd save me a lot of time rather than trying to figure it out, and it's been too cloudy to really get out, I have only played a short time in my backyard.

One more...
For Birds in Flight is it still STABILIZER MODE 2 and for all other things MODE 1?
I have a 400mm 2.8 and it is not the same on some of this and I always used MODE 2 on that one, but this new lens has 3 MODES,

I apologize for interrupting but this is the thread I am most familiar with, so I thought I would chance a quick question.

Carry on! :)

Also, thanks!

Randy

Focus Limiter: If you are shooting things that are closer than 9ft, set to Full. Otherwise, set it at the 3m setting and it will speed up AF acquisitions since it won't try to rack through that 0-9ft range while grabbing a subject.

IS: Many, many personal preferences there; but I've found Mode 1 nice for shooting non-moving things and scenes requiring much slower than normal shutter speeds; Mode 2 for anything moving around and I've tried Mode 3, but I really do need the stabilization of the image in the viewfinder to accurately frame things, so it's fairly useless to me. And, of course, Off for tripod.


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Nov 30, 2016 01:06 |  #4952

recrisp wrote in post #18198588 (external link)
I have been watching this thread since its inception and have been amazed at what I have seen by all of you, and of course, the lens.

So, I have a question...

I just bought one and I am wondering which setting to use, either the FULL or the 3m on distance and close-ups. I know, noob stuff, but it'd save me a lot of time rather than trying to figure it out, and it's been too cloudy to really get out, I have only played a short time in my backyard.

One more...
For Birds in Flight is it still STABILIZER MODE 2 and for all other things MODE 1?
I have a 400mm 2.8 and it is not the same on some of this and I always used MODE 2 on that one, but this new lens has 3 MODES,

I apologize for interrupting but this is the thread I am most familiar with, so I thought I would chance a quick question.

Carry on! :)

Also, thanks!

Randy

I recently started for try Mode 3 for BIF and I think my keeper rate improved. I use mode1 for static objects.


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Nov 30, 2016 06:37 |  #4953

Just got this
Very interesting lense
I used to think my old version I was quite Good... But this..bw!


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Nov 30, 2016 07:30 |  #4954

Ya your gona love it.

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I used to think my old version I was quite Good... But this..bw!


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Nov 30, 2016 08:50 |  #4955

If I mounted a 1.4x extender to my 1Dx which is F8 focus in the centre only, does that mean I have to use single point and all the zone AF etc are disabled?




  
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Nov 30, 2016 09:02 |  #4956

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If I mounted a 1.4x extender to my 1Dx which is F8 focus in the centre only, does that mean I have to use single point and all the zone AF etc are disabled?

That's (nearly) correct - you can do one expansion mode. If you look at the guidebook at http://cpn.canon-europe.com …ting_guidebook_​updated.do (external link) on page 83 it shows "Group H"; which includes the 100-400 with a 1.4x TC.


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Nov 30, 2016 09:13 |  #4957

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Nov 30, 2016 09:31 |  #4958

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Thanks!

That is why I don't use the 1.4 for BIF. Not that I can't but I lose too many fun focusing options and you can crop the heck out of the 7D2. I use it for static shots of smaller birds and distant wildlife.


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Nov 30, 2016 11:18 |  #4959

Thank you to ALL (McNeese72, Pondrader, Snydremark, and Digital Paradise) that helped me learn (very easily) how to use this, it's a pretty and clear day today but I have too much to do. heheh

Really, I do appreciate every one of your suggestions, I'm really not an idjit, but I wanted to hear how y'all went about it and it would save me some time, I learn faster from other people's experiences.

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Nov 30, 2016 14:03 |  #4960

recrisp wrote in post #18198588 (external link)
I have been watching this thread since its inception and have been amazed at what I have seen by all of you, and of course, the lens.

So, I have a question...

I just bought one and I am wondering which setting to use, either the FULL or the 3m on distance and close-ups. I know, noob stuff, but it'd save me a lot of time rather than trying to figure it out, and it's been too cloudy to really get out, I have only played a short time in my backyard.

One more...
For Birds in Flight is it still STABILIZER MODE 2 and for all other things MODE 1?
I have a 400mm 2.8 and it is not the same on some of this and I always used MODE 2 on that one, but this new lens has 3 MODES,

I apologize for interrupting but this is the thread I am most familiar with, so I thought I would chance a quick question.

Carry on! :)

Also, thanks!

Randy


I am one of the Oddballs that does not like IS and does not want it on any of their lenses - with one exception, namely the 100-400 Mk2! For some reason I find this lens very hard to hand hold steadily. I don't like IS as it gets in the way on moving subjects an is of little help (for me) on static ones.

However the Mode 3 IS on the 100-400 Mk2 has proven to be very good in my experience and unless I know I will only be at high shutter speeds then I use this mode as a default on this lens. It does help with lower shutter speeds but, more importantly, Mode 3 does not seem to interfere (significantly) with moving subjects. I was very surprised at needing IS on a lens like this but Mode 3 does work!


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Nov 30, 2016 15:36 as a reply to  @ johnf3f's post |  #4961

I do remember reading how some like it like that, so I will definitely try your way too, I want it to work as well as possible for me.
Using my 400mm 2.8 I always have Mode 2 on, I have yet to have any problems with that method. Of course the weight on the 2.8 is considerably more! :)
To be honest, where I used to shoot before I moved all of the areas around me were sitting birds, I really didn't have any good backgrounds to shoot with, I know that may sound odd, but I didn't, so I shoot more sitting 'ducks' than flying.

Thanks for the reply John! :)

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Nov 30, 2016 15:46 |  #4962

johnf3f wrote in post #18199350 (external link)
I am one of the Oddballs that does not like IS and does not want it on any of their lenses - with one exception, namely the 100-400 Mk2! For some reason I find this lens very hard to hand hold steadily. I don't like IS as it gets in the way on moving subjects an is of little help (for me) on static ones.

However the Mode 3 IS on the 100-400 Mk2 has proven to be very good in my experience and unless I know I will only be at high shutter speeds then I use this mode as a default on this lens. It does help with lower shutter speeds but, more importantly, Mode 3 does not seem to interfere (significantly) with moving subjects. I was very surprised at needing IS on a lens like this but Mode 3 does work!

I have never found IS an issue in Mode 2. Every BIF I have taken and posted is with IS on. Even with my good old 300L F4 IS which is first generation IS. Many times I would forget and use Mode 1 when panning and success.


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Nov 30, 2016 18:51 as a reply to  @ digital paradise's post |  #4963

I've been debating getting a used 7D2 instead of using a 1.4 for BIF..

At the moment I'm using case 3 with zone AF. Anyone using something different? Thanks for sharing your tips ߘ




  
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Nov 30, 2016 19:09 |  #4964

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I've been debating getting a used 7D2 instead of using a 1.4 for BIF..

At the moment I'm using case 3 with zone AF. Anyone using something different? Thanks for sharing your tips ߘ

what's your current body?


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Nov 30, 2016 19:13 as a reply to  @ digital paradise's post |  #4965

Glad to hear of your success! Unfortunately it does not tally with my and others experiences.

But we are all different and have different insights. Could I ask, have you tried shooting BIF with IS off?

I have found that IS OFF is the better method, as has everyone I know, but that does not mean that we are right!

I do know that with the 100-400 Mk1, 70-20 F2.8 L IS Mk1, 300 F4 L IS, 300 F2.8 L IS mk1 and 2, 600 F4 L IS Mk1, 800 F5.6 L IS that turning IS off is the better option. Note that these are all lenses that I do or have owned (except for the 300 F2.8 L Mk2).

I was very surprised that the IS mode 3 worked so well on my 100-400 Mk2 - but I was horrified that it needed it! Much as I like this lens the balance and handling is terrible! Perhaps that is why it needs IS?

Anyway if you can get good BIF shots, as it appears you can, with IS on then I salute you. IS has completely defeated me! With IS off most numpties (around here) seem to fare better, but I respect your opinion and experience.

So long as you get the shot, who cares how you got it? I (and others) just find IS OFF easier and more successful - you find otherwise and that's fine.


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