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Reason for no other camera, phones at weddings, except THE photographer (s)

 
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Dec 23, 2016 14:52 |  #16

mdvaden wrote in post #18220669 (external link)
That makes total sense. Its certain that some photographers will become very busy, but one of the most important spaces is the one nearby which is fairly easy to keep track of.

There is no professionalism in allowing the best possible photos to be slowly replaced by table scraps.

I am only guessing your reference to important spaces nearby, you are a more close positioning shooter so that is what you mean by keeping track of them. But imagine my son down on the floor in the back of the church with his 70-200. the center aisle is decorated with candles or flowers going up on either side to the altar from the rear, you have this beautiful church setting as the backdrop, the officiant just announces man and wife, they turn to face everyone and make those great first gestures, kiss with a dip or whatever might happen, and Aunt Betty jumps into the aisle to get the shot with her cell phone. This is all we are trying to prevent by making them aware of what could happen. Just managing early on by covering all the bases, so we can give the bride and groom what they paid for. Our creativity and fantastic photos.


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Dec 23, 2016 16:11 |  #17

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I am only guessing your reference to important spaces nearby, you are a more close positioning shooter so that is what you mean by keeping track of them. But imagine my son down on the floor in the back of the church with his 70-200. the center aisle is decorated with candles or flowers going up on either side to the altar from the rear, you have this beautiful church setting as the backdrop, the officiant just announces man and wife, they turn to face everyone and make those great first gestures, kiss with a dip or whatever might happen, and Aunt Betty jumps into the aisle to get the shot with her cell phone. This is all we are trying to prevent by making them aware of what could happen. Just managing early on by covering all the bases, so we can give the bride and groom what they paid for. Our creativity and fantastic photos.

That fits too.

I meant the space I can see all around me, whereas in another room down the hall, I can't see.

What you wrote is important. Photographers are hired and it's also an investment. Guests are typically not paid or expected to bring cell phones or cameras if a "Professional" is contracted with.

In similar fashion, I'm sure caterers or audio specialists would not be expected to let anybody and everybody interfere at will with their contracted services and setup.


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Dec 23, 2016 16:50 |  #18

With group photo I do my best telling everyone to look at my camera. With ceremony and entrance, first dance etc., if I notice in advance there might be guest photographers in my way, I try to speak to them so I get the frames I need. I'm glad that some brides nowadays go all the way to have a unplugged ceremony. It helps both the photographer to have the space and the guests to be present for the moment.


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Dec 23, 2016 19:45 |  #19

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You guys are going to fight a loosing battle. Every wedding in the past 2 yrs...so thats 51 weddings...Cell phones out in every single shot. In the shots. Most of the weddings the guests were asked to turn the cell phones off.

This is not going to change and its only going to get worse. people ignore anything said and do WTH they want to do

So I have adopted a new attitude and it no longer bothers me

NOT MY PROBLEM--- if you invite guests that feel like they dont give a crapola what they are asked NOT TO DO.....then you get photos back like this

This is a lost cause and battle. Stop beating your heads against a wall. This is just a fact of life with wedding photography these days. My suggestion is to find things you can control to worry about....this topic is not one of them


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Dec 23, 2016 19:46 |  #20

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At weddings or other events where I'm the hired photographer I simply point to my camera and say " please everyone look here".

On a different theme, I just finished editing a wedding where my second shooter used a flash on a short stand that he held over his head while shooting. In quite a number of pics, several of the people are looking at his flash and not the camera.

My daughter had this issue recently lol...


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Dec 24, 2016 11:04 |  #21

Talley wrote in post #18222071 (external link)
My daughter had this issue recently lol...

So much like a stairway where I photographed a few families a couple years ago. Even without distractions, it took a little time to get everyone with eyes open, etc..

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Great captures

Personally, I'd cull the woman in the foreground taking a selfie just to stay on the safe side. Usually at that point, the bride and groom are "presented" to family and friends and the couple should be the center of attention. At that point, nobody's back should be turned on them, otherwise it may be unintended potential for insult. Safer to remove what is second-rate, even if guests were allowed to use phones.


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Dec 24, 2016 17:46 |  #22

I'm amused by the OP's concept of cell phones (not taking photos, or flash photography, but cell phones) being "allowed." Would you confiscate every device at the beginning of the event and return at the end? Would you tell your invited guest "Please do not bring a cell phone." Everybody has a cell phone that can take photos, even flip phones.




  
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Dec 24, 2016 18:26 |  #23

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Everybody has a cell phone that can take photos, even flip phones.

Not literally everybody. Sorry to intrude into the thread, but I see too many assumptions about gadget adoption. Still standing my ground about chasing after things.


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Dec 24, 2016 22:31 as a reply to  @ OhLook's post |  #24

Probably not a literal "EVERYBODY" in a true numerical since. Will you accept "MOST" people. But, EVERYBODY I know has a phone. Their kids have a phone. Grandparents have a phone. Hell, homeless people have a phone. And I'm willing to guess that in any wedding photographed by a member of this thread 95% of the attendees have a phone. So thanks for making that correction.




  
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Dec 24, 2016 23:22 |  #25

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Probably not a literal "EVERYBODY" in a true numerical since. Will you accept "MOST" people.

Yes, I'll accept that, thanks. The most recent figure I saw was 92%; it may have been only the percentage among adults.

Those who didn't grow up with cellphones may remember when it was thought rude for wedding guests to do anything but stay in their seats and attend to the service. Guests are there to honor the couple, not to practice their own pursuits. This thread shouldn't even be necessary.


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Dec 25, 2016 00:49 |  #26

I've done a number of weddings over the years, I used to be meek and mild and not push past people taking up the space the photographers paid to do the event should have, I always have a second photographer so one of us has always caught the pivotal moment However over the years I found the cell/mobile phone a real pain at times. So the last two wedding I did I asked the bride to send out invites with specified request for no phones during ceremony (they could go for it after the wedding and during reception). They put the request nicely and these two weddings have been the absolute best to do, a pleasure. I have one wedding to do in 2017 but dont plan on continuing with them although I have had a number of requests. Im just weddinged out I think :lol:


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aladyforty wrote in post #18223040 (external link)
I've done a number of weddings over the years, I used to be meek and mild and not push past people taking up the space the photographers paid to do the event should have, I always have a second photographer so one of us has always caught the pivotal moment However over the years I found the cell/mobile phone a real pain at times. So the last two wedding I did I asked the bride to send out invites with specified request for no phones during ceremony (they could go for it after the wedding and during reception). They put the request nicely and these two weddings have been the absolute best to do, a pleasure. I have one wedding to do in 2017 but dont plan on continuing with them although I have had a number of requests. Im just weddinged out I think :lol:

That to me is very professional, handling the situation before the fact rather than missing the photo and blaming it on someone with a cell phone. A little communication goes a long way.




  
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Dec 25, 2016 07:58 |  #28

I don't shoot weddings as much as events. If the situation is not out of hand, I get the attention of the subjects and point them to the other photographer(s). Let them get the shot first. Then it's my turn. I don't fiddle with the camera or drop it. So I get the shot quickly. If someone is having trouble with their phone, I direct the subjects back at me. I goes more smoothly that way. The pressure is off the fiddler and they're ready for their shot when I am done.

At events, it's normally just Mom, Dad, grandparents, or children. Weddings are tougher because there are more people with cameras. That's what I meant by out of hand. Then I do my best and just look for the moment.


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Dec 31, 2016 19:38 |  #29

aladyforty wrote in post #18223040 (external link)
I've done a number of weddings over the years, I used to be meek and mild and not push past people taking up the space the photographers paid to do the event should have, I always have a second photographer so one of us has always caught the pivotal moment However over the years I found the cell/mobile phone a real pain at times. So the last two wedding I did I asked the bride to send out invites with specified request for no phones during ceremony (they could go for it after the wedding and during reception). They put the request nicely and these two weddings have been the absolute best to do, a pleasure. I have one wedding to do in 2017 but dont plan on continuing with them although I have had a number of requests. Im just weddinged out I think :lol:

Glad the topic is still going.

Nice to read all the ideas. What you did basically sowed seeds to prepare people well in advance.


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Feb 16, 2017 12:56 |  #30

kjonnnn wrote in post #18222888 (external link)
I'm amused by the OP's concept of cell phones (not taking photos, or flash photography, but cell phones) being "allowed." Would you confiscate every device at the beginning of the event and return at the end? Would you tell your invited guest "Please do not bring a cell phone." Everybody has a cell phone that can take photos, even flip phones.

This past summer, I attended two "unplugged" weddings. Both times a guest ignored the request and were quietly escorted out of the ceremony. One of those guests was actually related to either the bride or groom and he was getting reamed out hard after the ceremony by his parents for not only being rude and using a cell phone with flash to take a photo when he was specifically asked not to, he was scolded for having missed most of the ceremony.




  
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