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Have You Tried the Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS II USM Lens

 
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Jan 06, 2017 06:01 |  #46
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michgirl wrote in post #18235152 (external link)
That has crossed my mind as well. Especially since the previous version has pretty good reviews. Still mulling it all over. Thanks.

If you consider the older version a 70-270mm lens, you'll be just fine with it, and have 30mm in reserve for when you want/need it.

I see you have the 55-250 STM. I've had that and the old 70-300. They are about equal in IQ and focus speed at similar aperture and focal length settings. In my humble opinion, the 70-300 offers you nothing on your crop camera. Its biggest feature is that it mounts, and functions, on your full frame body.

I thought the vII looked promising. I trust TDP's reviews. If you need IQ at the long end, good focus speed, and modern IS, you may have to take another look at the 70-300L. I think it is currently a bit overpriced, considering 100-400Lc lenses are going for $200-300 less. And we're back to the 100-400Lc being large & heavy! :)




  
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Jan 06, 2017 06:24 |  #47

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If you consider the older version a 70-270mm lens, you'll be just fine with it, and have 30mm in reserve for when you want/need it.

I see you have the 55-250 STM. I've had that and the old 70-300. They are about equal in IQ and focus speed at similar aperture and focal length settings. In my humble opinion, the 70-300 offers you nothing on your crop camera. Its biggest feature is that it mounts, and functions, on your full frame body.

I thought the vII looked promising. I trust TDP's reviews. If you need IQ at the long end, good focus speed, and modern IS, you may have to take another look at the 70-300L. I think it is currently a bit overpriced, considering 100-400Lc lenses are going for $200-300 less. And we're back to the 100-400Lc being large & heavy! :)

I think your post is mirroring my thought process. I was just holding my crop and 55-250mm STM, thinking maybe I just need to practice technique a little more with this lens. Asking myself what would I gain.

The price of both versions of the 70-300mm IS USM is attractive. The results are more than acceptable. The 6D takes such good shots, that I wish for the longer zoom for it. But I haven't been able to pull the trigger just yet, not quite sure on it. I have seen some fantastic results with the II version on this thread, so I am very torn.

And you are quite right about the 70-300 L version. Sigh.... too many decisions.


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Jan 06, 2017 09:42 as a reply to  @ michgirl's post |  #48
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I think you are correct about the 6D. It is just fantastic. The AF is dead-accurate, on every lens I own. I am sure it would get the most possible out of whichever 70-300 you choose.




  
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Jan 06, 2017 10:24 |  #49

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I think your post is mirroring my thought process. I was just holding my crop and 55-250mm STM, thinking maybe I just need to practice technique a little more with this lens. Asking myself what would I gain.

The price of both versions of the 70-300mm IS USM is attractive. The results are more than acceptable. The 6D takes such good shots, that I wish for the longer zoom for it. But I haven't been able to pull the trigger just yet, not quite sure on it. I have seen some fantastic results with the II version on this thread, so I am very torn.

And you are quite right about the 70-300 L version. Sigh.... too many decisions.

in the worst case you can go sony, the 70-300g is pretty good on the A7rii, although it actually weighs more than the canon II (but a good bit smaller). It hits the sweet spot for me after owning the 100-400 and 70-400 for years. Half the weight, similar optics, and quite a bit smaller. The size makes a good difference, can fit into bags that cant quite hold a 70-200 f4 for instance. Price is kind of on the ridiculous side, but it's smaller and pleasurable to use.

I'm an unapologetic full frame enthusiast though, so I wont give up on that bigger sensor.


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Jan 06, 2017 12:32 |  #50

I used to own the 70-300L and it was a great lens, but on the long end it doesn't outperform the 70-300 II. It does on the wide end, especially in the corners, but let's face it, most folks using a 70-300 lens are going to live in the long end. And at more than twice the cost, I just can't see justifying a 70-300L over the 70-300 II unless you need the weatherproofing.

I'm a bit surprised at Bryan C's so-so review of the 70-300 II. I'm quite happy with mine and considering its performance when stacked up against the 70-300L, I think it's a pretty impressive lens. I've never owned or used the original 70-300, so I can't say that the version II is worth the increase in cost. I also have the 55-250 STM, and that's a great lens as well. I'll probably keep that to use with my SL1 as a super light wildlife rig.


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M_Six wrote in post #18235580 (external link)
I used to own the 70-300L and it was a great lens, but on the long end it doesn't outperform the 70-300 II. It does on the wide end, especially in the corners, but let's face it, most folks using a 70-300 lens are going to live in the long end. And at more than twice the cost, I just can't see justifying a 70-300L over the 70-300 II unless you need the weatherproofing.

I'm a bit surprised at Bryan C's so-so review of the 70-300 II. I'm quite happy with mine and considering its performance when stacked up against the 70-300L, I think it's a pretty impressive lens. I've never owned or used the original 70-300, so I can't say that the version II is worth the increase in cost. I also have the 55-250 STM, and that's a great lens as well. I'll probably keep that to use with my SL1 as a super light wildlife rig.

Thanks. It is always nice to have 'real-world' opinions of gear.




  
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Jan 06, 2017 14:58 as a reply to  @ Charlie's post |  #52

I really don't want another camera, LOL; but thanks! I have heard nothing but good things about the Sony's.

I sold my 100-400mm L lens last year, due to the size and weight and challenges it presented. Recently I purchased the T6i with 55-250mm lens and realized how much I missed shooting wildlife/birds. And this combo does a very nice job for me. Then I happened to see the 70-300 USM IS ii and liked the price range and the fact that it is an EF lens. That's the whole process that got me seriously considering this lens.


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Jan 06, 2017 15:11 |  #53

M_Six wrote in post #18235580 (external link)
I used to own the 70-300L and it was a great lens, but on the long end it doesn't outperform the 70-300 II. It does on the wide end, especially in the corners, but let's face it, most folks using a 70-300 lens are going to live in the long end. And at more than twice the cost, I just can't see justifying a 70-300L over the 70-300 II unless you need the weatherproofing.

I'm a bit surprised at Bryan C's so-so review of the 70-300 II. I'm quite happy with mine and considering its performance when stacked up against the 70-300L, I think it's a pretty impressive lens. I've never owned or used the original 70-300, so I can't say that the version II is worth the increase in cost. I also have the 55-250 STM, and that's a great lens as well. I'll probably keep that to use with my SL1 as a super light wildlife rig.

I do appreciate and value your opinion. And the images that have been shared from this lens are really outstanding. Although the L version would be great, I am finding mid-range gear to not only be a good value, the results are about the same to the naked eye and in prints.

After quite a few years of "GAS", spending more money than I ever should have, I have come to the conclusion that it is more about technique and knowledge than it is about the gear. Any of these threads on here prove just that. Now when I view my results and critique them, I try to figure out what I should do differently next time rather than think better equipment will achieve better results.

This lens just really appeals to me, the price point, the images I have seen others produce and the fact it is an EF lens. I am so through buying/selling gear, that I like to be sure it is something I will happily use for a very long time. Thus I think the II version would probably be the one.


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Jan 06, 2017 16:57 |  #54

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I do appreciate and value your opinion. And the images that have been shared from this lens are really outstanding. Although the L version would be great, I am finding mid-range gear to not only be a good value, the results are about the same to the naked eye and in prints.

After quite a few years of "GAS", spending more money than I ever should have, I have come to the conclusion that it is more about technique and knowledge than it is about the gear. Any of these threads on here prove just that. Now when I view my results and critique them, I try to figure out what I should do differently next time rather than think better equipment will achieve better results.

This lens just really appeals to me, the price point, the images I have seen others produce and the fact it is an EF lens. I am so through buying/selling gear, that I like to be sure it is something I will happily use for a very long time. Thus I think the II version would probably be the one.

Most of what you said is very true. It all comes down to what we want our equipment to do us and how can we enjoy it more. After all, that's really why we started shooting in the first place.

Many years ago, when the 35F2 IS first came out, everyone under the sun was bashing it and its price, and praising Sigma 35 to be the next messiah. I tried the Sigma, it couldn't focus worth a damn, was much too heavy and bulky for my liking so I opted for 35F2 IS. I have never regretted that decision of mine. Now the tide has turned and many others are using it, are loving its quick focus and brilliant optics. Hey, I beat most of them to it by not taking the popular advice :lol:

In short, don't go too much by what people say and make you believe. If you think you can have a blast owning/using something then do it. Everyone's needs are different and following this thread I have noted as many suggestions as there are posts ;-)a

Good luck in your decision, I am sure it will be a good one.


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Jan 07, 2017 11:38 |  #55

My wife and I got out into the Skagit Valley yesterday. It was her first real outing with the lens. She enjoyed the size, weight, and performance of it. A definite improvement over the 55-250 STM, in her opinion. Here are a few photos that she took with her 70D and 70-300 II.

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Jan 07, 2017 14:06 |  #56

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I had that lens. It is most certainly worth what you paid for it. My opinion is that the 55-250 gives you better IQ. This lens is a bit weak, but quite usable at the long end. As usual, better is available, but you will pay a lot of money for small gains in image quality. My biggest beef with this lens is the relatively slow focusing speed. Ring USM is much faster than the micro-motor USM this lens uses.

Version II of this lens touts 'nano-USM', which Canon states is faster than STM. I've never seen a comparison of 'nano' to 'ring' wrt speed. It is reviewed to be very quiet, which matters if you are recording video. Again, I find the dearth of reviews for vII a bit puzzling.

The vII lens is faster focusing than the Ring USM, I've never seen anything like it before...............


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Jan 07, 2017 14:35 as a reply to  @ LJ3Jim's post |  #57

Thank you for posting her images - they are fantastic! Yes, for sure I am ordering this lens. It will be a great lens to take on our six week excursion to southern California this winter. Should be fine hiking in the mountains and long enough to capture some wildlife.

Thank you so much for sharing.


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Jan 07, 2017 14:36 as a reply to  @ dochollidayda's post |  #58

Very good advice and you are so very right.

Thank you.


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Feb 14, 2017 21:13 |  #59

Anyone else have experience with this lens? I'm thinking about ordering one.




  
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Feb 14, 2017 21:38 |  #60

michgirl wrote in post #18232780 (external link)
"A little bit extra..."? It is more than twice as much. On a retiree budget, that is A LOT ;-)a:-D I did check it out, though.

I have seen the 70-300L used in pristine condition for around $700.... several times. It's a very fine lens. Our youngest son has mine at the moment or I'd be selling it if I couldn't talk my wife into using it. So far, she's happy with her 55-250 STM.


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