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Jan 03, 2017 05:20 |  #16

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Jan 03, 2017 06:28 |  #17

FuturamaJSP wrote in post #18225716 (external link)
That 700 dollar budget is a bit low if you want a computer that is significantly faster than your current laptop

I used this site: https://pcpartpicker.c​om (external link)
to see how far i could get with your budget and got this:

Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
MSI Z170A KRAIT GAMING 3X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive OR a 120gb ssd
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card
Deepcool TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case
EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

Total: $772.38

still 10% over your budget... if you want a i7 6700k you will need to add another 100 bucks

= $$$

isn't exactly cheap either.

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Jan 03, 2017 06:37 |  #18

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Depending on the performance of the laptop, I may choose a laptop. But, if the same money can buy me a desktop that blows away the laptop, I'll go with that.

Don't forget, that with a desktop you have the possibility to upgrade over time. You can choose something that fits your current needs and adapt with higher demands. For most laptops upgrading is very limited.


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Jan 14, 2017 12:39 |  #19

I think I'm going to go with a desktop build. Maybe even older components if they are cheap enough. Did some shopping and even that old Q6600 machine I had flew compared to this i7. Ran a bit warm, but I didn't really get into extra cooling either. I'm seeing some very good deals on AMD 6 or eight cores. http://www.newegg.com …aspx?Item=N82E1​6819113286 (external link)

I don't need latest greatest, just a solid performer will do.



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Jan 17, 2017 01:44 as a reply to  @ lvph2's post |  #20

Then a desktop should be more than enough for you. cooling is always a bit tricky when it comes to laptops which is why most laptop cpus are underclocked. An Ivy bridge desktop i7 can outperform the newest Kabylake laptop i7 simply because the latter is underclocked even though its like 3 generations newer.

I would avoid the older AMD cpus because even they have 6 or 8 cores they are still slower than the 4 core intel cpus


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Jan 17, 2017 08:09 as a reply to  @ FuturamaJSP's post |  #21

Thanks. Yeah, dug a little deeper and it seems like the single core power of the AMD's just doesn't compare.



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Jan 17, 2017 08:33 as a reply to  @ lvph2's post |  #22

AMD just announced Ryzen CPUs to be released this year but the last time any significant CPU releases were made was back in 2012. So Ivy bridge is old but it is still newer than the lastest CPUs AMD has to offer currently


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Jan 19, 2017 17:22 |  #23

Ok could not figure out what to get first, so I've decided to go ahead and choose the i5-3470s CPU. Some super deals on them I've found under $100. Now to find a decent Motherboard.

The rest should be easy, RAM, Case, PSU, etc.



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Jan 19, 2017 17:24 |  #24

Look at things like compatibility lists, and make sure you do tests once the computer is working. Prime95, memtest x86, HCI memtest (much better than memtest).


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Jan 19, 2017 17:49 as a reply to  @ tim's post |  #25

Will do. Trying to figure out what MOBO is good for editing. I probably won't worry with a dedicated graphics card. Unless, there isn't any good options for onboard graphics. But, trying to go budget on this build.



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Jan 19, 2017 18:25 |  #26

Buy the cheapest motherboard that a good brand releases that has the ports (USB3, SATA6, etc) you need - Gigabyte, etc. You don't need performance or gamer motherboards, they're all pretty similar. Dual BIOS is useful, I managed to corrupt mine recently, but it restored automatically (eventually). Performance differences between motherboards isn't worth worrying about IMHO.


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Jan 20, 2017 01:29 |  #27

get a Z - mobo like Z97 for Haswell or Z170 for Skylake if you want to overclock your CPU
the cheapest boards are usually the H boards that doesnt offer the ability to overclock and usually don't support SATA express and M.2


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Jan 20, 2017 13:16 |  #28

I got an unlocked CPU but never bothered to overclock. I wouldn't go spending heaps more on a motherboard with capabilities you don't need, but do make sure it'll do everything you need, like the M.2 SSD if you want one of those. I think my current motherboard cost $52 and works fine.


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Jan 20, 2017 14:36 |  #29

tim wrote in post #18225363 (external link)
Desktops are typically faster and cheaper than laptops. How much depends on the individual machines and the task. I wouldn't buy a laptop for photo and video processing. My workstation has a fast 8 core processor, two SSDs, a RAID array, another hard drive, and a decent video card internally, you can't do that with a laptop.

Yes. You can get a gamer laptop that will have the gpu for video, but it will lack storage.

Video needs lots of everything: CPU, GPU (particularly GPU ram), main RAM, and directly attached storage.


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Jan 20, 2017 15:05 |  #30

Bleufire wrote in post #18230765 (external link)
At this point consider 7 dead for any new PCs going forward.

However, there are some good deals on Win 7 machines that include the free privilege to upgrade to Win 10.




  
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