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Obama's photographer presents his last year in review

 
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Or he posts those photos because they aren't the standard boring photo of a few people just sitting around talking policy, even though he has all of those for the historians.

Tell us how you would make an interesting photo of Obama dealing with the Snowden issue.


You mean..how to depict the magnitude of the political situation using still photos with subjects engaging in deep thoughts and conversations..and yet...the photographs must convey all of that??? That's the job for the best photographer in the world...not me... :) :)


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RDKirk wrote in post #18245430 (external link)
Are none of those in the collection? I know there is a shot of the president and crew monitoring the assault on Osama Bin Laden's compound...are you sure there aren't any other "defining moments" among the 2 million images?


I don't know...is up to the White House to showcase these collections. There aren't even my photos.


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Jan 15, 2017 18:18 |  #33

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Snowden Saga

Shot of Obama on the Phone to NSA

The negotiation with Putin to destroy the Assad chemical weapons because Obama was about to bomb Syria. Many believe that because he didn't order to go to war against Assad, his moderate rebel plan have failed.

Shot of Obama on the phone to Putin

The Euro crisis.

Shot of Obama on the phone to Merkel


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Jan 15, 2017 18:23 |  #34

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I don't know...is up to the White House to showcase these collections. There aren't even my photos.

And here we see why editors are important...and sorely lacking these days.


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Shot of Obama on the Phone to NSA

Shot of Obama on the phone to Putin

Shot of Obama on the phone to Merkel


No.....Obama with James Clapper talking and discussing.

No...Obama having a candid talk with Putin in various international meetings they have before both countries cut ties with one another.

No...With Merkel is easy....G7. Used to be G8. Meeting at Davos....


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RDKirk wrote in post #18245491 (external link)
And here we see why editors are important...and sorely lacking these days.

Pete Souza isn't a newcomer...he has been around. :) I say the decision to showcase these collections "can" be political. Just saying.... Regardless..... personally, I want to see more political and historical aspects of these collections. Baby pictures? Playing with kids? Meeting with celebrities?? They are important but..... whatever...:)


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Jan 15, 2017 18:40 |  #37

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Nice article and photographs in this article.


http://www.bbc.com/new​s/in-pictures-38471734 (external link)

He's got the full Year in Photos on Instagram as well
Some pretty cool (informal) photos there

https://www.instagram.​com/petesouza/?hl=en (external link)


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Jan 15, 2017 18:41 |  #38

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Pete Souza isn't a newcomer...he has been around. :) I say the decision to showcase these collections "can" be political. Just saying.... Regardless..... personally, I want to see more political and historical aspects of these collections. Baby pictures? Playing with kids? Meeting with celebrities?? They are important but..... whatever...:)

You are talking about editing.

Old school PJs don't edit, they just turn in the take.

Editing would be purpose-based and indeed, would create collections such as "Important International Moments of the Obama Presidency."

Without an editor, you don't get that. Sousa is not an editor.


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Jan 15, 2017 18:52 |  #39

Pete Souza has taken the photos TooManyShots wants, just that they are not shown in that BBC gallery


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Jan 15, 2017 19:41 |  #40

TooManyShots, you've made your point very clearly: the collection should consist entirely of politically significant shots. But that's not the only kind of shot a White House photographer is expected to take. Some people also want to see the more personal and social scenes. The subject himself, Mr. Obama, is one of those people. I don't know a reason that your preferences should guide the selection of shots to take or shots to place on Flickr. Do you?


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TooManyShots, you've made your point very clearly: the collection should consist entirely of politically significant shots. But that's not the only kind of shot a White House photographer is expected to take. Some people also want to see the more personal and social scenes. The subject himself, Mr. Obama, is one of those people. I don't know a reason that your preferences should guide the selection of shots to take or shots to place on Flickr. Do you?


Is not my preference...hehehehe. This is what you do being the official White House photographer documenting history. The White House...the political center of the world....yeah, baby pictures and playing with kids..... yeah....

I look through the White House Flickr page. He got some political theme shots but something is lacking in those.....Frankly, not overall impressed. Maybe because Obama wasn't a big hit in foreign policy and diplomacy or maybe the opportunities were not there.


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TooManyShots, you've made your point very clearly: the collection should consist entirely of politically significant shots. But that's not the only kind of shot a White House photographer is expected to take. Some people also want to see the more personal and social scenes. The subject himself, Mr. Obama, is one of those people. I don't know a reason that your preferences should guide the selection of shots to take or shots to place on Flickr. Do you?


Oh, my standard is pretty high because I was impressed by shots like these..when Willy Brandt knelt in front of the memorial for the Polish resistant fighters who died fighting the ****. That signaled the beginning of the Polish and German reconciliation.

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Jan 15, 2017 20:03 |  #43

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Is not my preference...hehehehe. This is what you do being the official White House photographer documenting history.

Saying "This is what you do . . ." only repeats the position you've taken in prior posts. I'm asking what support exists for that position. For example, does a job description exist somewhere that you can refer us to?


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Saying "This is what you do . . ." only repeats the position you've taken in prior posts. I'm asking what support exists for that position. For example, does a job description exist somewhere that you can refer us to?


Whatever....that's why no one knows who is Pete Souza much.


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OhLook wrote in post #18245574 (external link)
Saying "This is what you do . . ." only repeats the position you've taken in prior posts. I'm asking what support exists for that position. For example, does a job description exist somewhere that you can refer us to?

Whatever....that's why no one knows who is Pete Souza much.

"Whatever" is a nonanswer. As you haven't offered any support for your position, I trust I'll be excused for not being convinced that it's right.

I can't be the only one who knew who Pete Souza was. Show of hands?


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