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Jan 16, 2017 05:41 |  #5206

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When I look at your exposure data (F9, 1/400, ISO 500) what I see is something that is half pregnant - i.e. not a fast enough SS at that FL with that pixel density and that distance on a small detailed object to 90% of the time get it tack sharp, and not a scenario I mentioned above trying for ISO 100/200 and accepting that 1 in 30 might work out. As an example your (F9,1/400, ISO 500) is equivalent to (F8, 1/800, ISO 800) - a SS more closer to getting a much higher hit rate (but still not 90% in my opinion) - or maybe even better for tack sharpness (F8, 1/1250, ISO 1250).

Expanding on the above, on ISO: don't be afraid to err on the high side (as long as it's not clipping highlights you wanted). In general, it will be no worse (and sometimes better) to have a slightly too bright image (as a result of a higher ISO) and reduce the brightness in post, vs choosing a lower ISO and increasing the brightness in post. It's a result of the various sources of noise in the camera - whereby increasing the ISO in-camera will boost some, but not all noise. Increasing the brightness in post will increase the whole signal - including any and all sources of noise that are contained in that signal.

I've found instances where, say, I've increased the ISO level one full stop, and the shutter speed by 2/3 of a stop (to ensure I freeze the action), and got a sharp image that's 1/3 stop over exposed. As long as I've not lost critical highlights, once reduced by 1/3 stop in post the result will likely be better than a potentially blurry image at the former settings.

I also find I tend to lift shadows in a lot of images, so having a slightly overexposed image in-camera helps greatly with the final quality. Note that this is less of an issue with the newest Canon bodes (80D, 5D4, 1Dx2) as there's much less penalty for underexposure (but the above thoughts about shutter speed are still valid).


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Jan 16, 2017 09:59 |  #5207

So I have been thinking about this lens for a while, now I have been renting it from Borrow Lenses for the last week! Now my next decision is Adorama Camera or B and H Photo! This lens appears to be as sharp as my 70-200 2.8, which I love! Probably selling a 400L 5.6 in the near future!

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And a very cold Bluejay! This one was through a double pane glass window.

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Jan 16, 2017 12:58 |  #5208

Great shots!

SJC from VT wrote in post #18246014 (external link)
... Probably selling a 400L 5.6 in the near future!

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This lens forced me to sell both the old 100-400mm (expected) AND the 400mm prime, (unexpected)
It's better at everything except weight vs. the prime, and zoom vs. the "trombone" .


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Jan 16, 2017 14:13 as a reply to  @ CyberDyneSystems's post |  #5209

I am in the same or similar situation and want to buy one. When I get one I will be selling my V1. It is a good sign that this lens isn't on the market here often. I hope to join the VII family soon. :-)


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Jan 16, 2017 14:30 as a reply to  @ CyberDyneSystems's post |  #5210

Thanks Jake! No doubt I will be ordering this week, my rental must be postmarked tomorrow!


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Jan 16, 2017 14:55 |  #5211

SJC from VT wrote in post #18246014 (external link)
So I have been thinking about this lens for a while, now I have been renting it from Borrow Lenses for the last week! Now my next decision is Adorama Camera or B and H Photo! This lens appears to be as sharp as my 70-200 2.8, which I love! Probably selling a 400L 5.6 in the near future!

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And a very cold Bluejay! This one was through a double pane glass window.

With images like this you would be doing yourself a disservice if you didn't get it. :)
Really good job on this, those kind of pictures really speak to me, I have always admired your shots anyway, with you buying this will just make us all happier. heheh

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Jan 16, 2017 15:33 |  #5212

SJC from VT wrote in post #18246014 (external link)
So I have been thinking about this lens for a while, now I have been renting it from Borrow Lenses for the last week! Now my next decision is Adorama Camera or B and H Photo! This lens appears to be as sharp as my 70-200 2.8, which I love! Probably selling a 400L 5.6 in the near future!

Black capped Chickadee:

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And a very cold Bluejay! This one was through a double pane glass window.

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As you know Sandy you will love it, I would say its the most popular lens out there right now. Seems everyone is carrying one these days. To bad we are not closer.. I have two on my desk I have not been using.


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Jan 16, 2017 18:16 |  #5213

recrisp wrote in post #18246301 (external link)
With images like this you would be doing yourself a disservice if you didn't get it. :)
Really good job on this, those kind of pictures really speak to me, I have always admired your shots anyway, with you buying this will just make us all happier. heheh

Randy

Thank you Randy! That is an awesome compliment! Guess I better start posting more often!

Pondrader wrote in post #18246341 (external link)
As you know Sandy you will love it, I would say its the most popular lens out there right now. Seems everyone is carrying one these days. To bad we are not closer.. I have two on my desk I have not been using.

Thanks for the response Jeff! How did you end up with so many copies? Someday, I may have to get one of my photography buddies to go on a road trip with me. You would make a great guide, no doubt! Just before I packed up my Rental Lens, I took this shot of a Black capped Chickadee. The photo is basically straight out of the camera with slight sharpening applied, and it's hand held which is nearly impossible for me with the 400 non IS!

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Jan 16, 2017 19:51 |  #5214

It's been a few weeks now since I parted with the 100-400 II, and I absolutely miss it. It's probably the best "companion" lens, it does a ton of great things: stunning IQ, a sweet MFD that allows for near-macro shots, 400mm for birds and wildlife, takes the 1.4x like a duck to water, rock solid IS, fast AF. I could argue that it is Canon's best lens.




  
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Jan 16, 2017 20:20 |  #5215

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It's been a few weeks now since I parted with the 100-400 II, and I absolutely miss it. It's probably the best "companion" lens, it does a ton of great things: stunning IQ, a sweet MFD that allows for near-macro shots, 400mm for birds and wildlife, takes the 1.4x like a duck to water, rock solid IS, fast AF. I could argue that it is Canon's best lens.

lol who are you trying to convince Matt LMAO


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Jan 16, 2017 20:32 |  #5216

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lol who are you trying to convince Matt LMAO

No one at all, I just enjoy talking about the lens with everyone :-) Maybe I have a little bit of regret, it's hard to part with a near-perfect piece of kit.




  
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Jan 16, 2017 20:53 |  #5217

SJC from VT wrote in post #18246492 (external link)
Thank you Randy! That is an awesome compliment! Guess I better start posting more often!

Thanks for the response Jeff! How did you end up with so many copies? Someday, I may have to get one of my photography buddies to go on a road trip with me. You would make a great guide, no doubt! Just before I packed up my Rental Lens, I took this shot of a Black capped Chickadee. The photo is basically straight out of the camera with slight sharpening applied, and it's hand held which is nearly impossible for me with the 400 non IS!
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Nice Sandy, You might be right about the Guide thing. But you would need a little time to get it all lol


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Jan 19, 2017 12:34 |  #5218

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Jan 19, 2017 12:58 |  #5219

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Jan 20, 2017 12:03 |  #5220

Well after reading this entire thread, I just lightened my wallet and purchased the 100-400L II. It will be here this evening. Weather looks terrible so I will only be able to play inside, but cant wait to get this out to the zoo or something easy for the first outing. Will compare the images between the 5D Mark IV and 7D Mark II

Also, has everyone been doing any MFA or is the lens pretty close to spot on out of the box?


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