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Jan 11, 2017 13:05 |  #31

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Indeed my 5d3 and 5d2 for secondary body is more of my go to body for events. Lately I do question if clients can actually tell the difference in IQ for your average 5x7 or 8x10 prints if I use my 80D. Very likely clients cannot tell the difference

The answer to that question, as put, is "no." I would challenge photographers to tell the difference in a double-blind test without comparisons of same-aperture prints.


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Jan 11, 2017 14:13 |  #32

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The answer to that question, as put, is "no." I would challenge photographers to tell the difference in a double-blind test without comparisons of same-aperture prints.

Prints you cannot tell with 300 dpi print.

I've used my 80D for a Children's Japanese kimono photo shoot and my 5d3 or 5d2 appears to have better IQ on screen vs my 80D. Using my 80D on print turned out great though.

I've now printed a lot of personal family photos and I'm extremely pleased with the results.

This is where personal preference can hold more weight in the discussion between camera's.

For example using the same lens you can get more creamier backgrounds with a full frame using f/1.2 vs a crop. However what you determine as "better" is merely personal opinion and preference.

I'm still going to keep my 80D in my gearbag.

Actually I'll be playing with it even more as I've just loaded "cinestyle" for one of my picture styles for my video shooting :)


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Jan 12, 2017 03:59 |  #33

If you mainly shoot portraits and landscape then the 6D is the best choice, although personally i would pick either 5dII or newer because they are able to shoot at the maximum shutter speed of 1/8000 which can be useful when shooting with fast lenses like the 85 f1.2L
The crop cameras are mostly useful for macro and wildlife


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Jan 12, 2017 06:05 |  #34
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FuturamaJSP wrote in post #18241787 (external link)
If you mainly shoot portraits and landscape then the 6D is the best choice, although personally i would pick either 5dII or newer because they are able to shoot at the maximum shutter speed of 1/8000 which can be useful when shooting with fast lenses like the 85 f1.2L
The crop cameras are mostly useful for macro and wildlife

I don't understand the crop/macro thing. Using an EF macro lens on a crop camera doesn't get you any closer to the subject. It only crops away most of your image. What do you gain?




  
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Jan 20, 2017 17:17 |  #35

Really depends on what you shoot, but generally speaking, very generally speaking:

6D - landscapes, astrophotography, low light w/o flash

80D - pretty much everything else from wildlife to action/sports

From what I can tell, I would go with 80D if I were you.
Plus it's lighter to carry around for your vacation trips.




  
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Jan 20, 2017 19:42 |  #36

exvtec94 wrote in post #18221304 (external link)
Still undecided if the IQ of the 6D or the AF of the 80D is more important to have.

Output mostly will be small prints, etc. Maybe an occasional 18x24,24x36 canvas.

That being said, you won't notice a difference between either one.




  
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Jan 20, 2017 19:44 |  #37

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So I think I'm decided on the 80D. And since I'll be attempting to shoot some video also.

My next question is do I buy:

1) Costco kit with the 18-55IS STM and 55-250 IS STM?

2) Body Only then acquire the both lenses separately? Are there reputable places that sell them discounted? I don't see many 18-55STM nor 55-250STm being sold here in classifieds.

Refurb body direct from Canon is $900 (see https://shop.usa.canon​.com …/eos-80d-body-refurbished (external link)). Some kits with lenses may also be available. See https://shop.usa.canon​.com …-6-is-stm-kit-refurbished (external link) for the kit with an 18-55 STM at $950.




  
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Jan 22, 2017 12:19 |  #38

hobinsohn wrote in post #18250693 (external link)
Really depends on what you shoot, but generally speaking, very generally speaking:

6D - landscapes, astrophotography, low light w/o flash

80D - pretty much everything else from wildlife to action/sports

From what I can tell, I would go with 80D if I were you.
Plus it's lighter to carry around for your vacation trips.

By 25 grams......  :p


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Jan 24, 2017 09:43 |  #39

hobinsohn wrote in post #18250693 (external link)
Really depends on what you shoot, but generally speaking, very generally speaking:

6D - landscapes, astrophotography, low light w/o flash

80D - pretty much everything else from wildlife to action/sports

From what I can tell, I would go with 80D if I were you.
Plus it's lighter to carry around for your vacation trips.

Actually there are APS-C bodies better at certain types of astrophotography, so I wouldn't really try to put any buckets to these any longer. Just like there are some very, very good UWA for crop bodies to get awesome landscapes, and there are FF bodies that do sports and BIF now. The lines are very blurred any more.


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Jan 24, 2017 10:08 |  #40

AlanU wrote in post #18241168 (external link)
Prints you cannot tell with 300 dpi print.

I've used my 80D for a Children's Japanese kimono photo shoot and my 5d3 or 5d2 appears to have better IQ on screen vs my 80D. Using my 80D on print turned out great though.

They will look the same in either print or display up to the point that the smaller image begins to interpolate in order to reach the same image size.

Actually I'll be playing with it even more as I've just loaded "cinestyle" for one of my picture styles for my video shooting :)

Try "Cinema" picture style. The big pluses are that it doesn't require grading in post, but still provides the low contrast, highlight protection of Cinestyle. I find that the colors produced by Cinema are also so much more accurate than any of the in-the-box Canon styles that I use it for stills as well. I've got some comparison examples posted in the video forum area.

http://www.cineplus.ch​/cinema.html (external link)

It does cost USD $8.00, though.


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Jan 25, 2017 12:53 |  #41

Possible to deactivate the touch function on LCD screen?




  
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Jan 25, 2017 14:23 |  #42

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Possible to deactivate the touch function on LCD screen?

I can't recall if it's possible to totally deactivate it (I think not), but it's only active on menu screens.


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Jan 28, 2017 01:21 as a reply to  @ Bassat's post |  #43

for the same amount of magnification you could stay farther away from the subject when using a crop body. Well its basically like cropping a full frame image just like when shooting wildlife. Just like shooting wildlife it could be usefull when shooting certain insects


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Jan 28, 2017 01:52 |  #44

FuturamaJSP wrote in post #18257462 (external link)
for the same amount of magnification you could stay farther away from the subject when using a crop body. Well its basically like cropping a full frame image just like when shooting wildlife. Just like shooting wildlife it could be usefull when shooting certain insects

And also use the fact that it is possible to achive shallower DOF at minimum focus distance as it does not change. The lovely 85L transforms to a equivalent 135L with apparent FOV and DOF shallower than 85L wide open at f/1.2 on a fullframe body.




  
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