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Jan 27, 2017 12:46 |  #1

Looking for a scanner to scan new medium format b&w negatives and old family c41 negatives. I want to extract maximum dynamic range and detail out of the negatives so that they can be digitally edited and printed. I have tried the macro tubes with a digital camera, but I'm more interested in having a dedicated scanner with film holder to accomplish this

So far I'm looking at the Canon 9000F and epson v550. What do you folks use or recommend? I don't want to spend $1000+ on a negative scanner, are the higher end models like v850 really that much better in terms of how much they can extract compared to entry level stuff? Again this will be only for negatives.

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Jan 27, 2017 13:11 |  #2

Xerxes wrote in post #18256968 (external link)
Looking for a scanner to scan new medium format b&w negatives and old family c41 negatives. I want to extract maximum dynamic range and detail out of the negatives so that they can be digitally edited and printed. I have tried the macro tubes with a digital camera, but I'm more interested in having a dedicated scanner with film holder to accomplish this

So far I'm looking at the Canon 9000F and epson v550. What do you folks use or recommend? I don't want to spend $1000+ on a negative scanner, are the higher end models like v850 really that much better in terms of how much they can extract compared to entry level stuff? Again this will be only for negatives.

-thanks in advance


If you have a large number of them to do, and you want the best quality scans, it may be beneficial to check local camera/photography/pri​nt shops for professional scanning services.




  
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Jan 27, 2017 18:55 |  #3
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Unless you want to spend a lot of time learning how to scan your negatives to get the most out of them ( not a trivial task ) and then go brain dead scanning your negatives which takes a lot of time if you want to get the most out of the negatives...I'd definitely farm them out. I did a project scanning old negatives and photos from early 1900's and that was very trying...lots of time spent waiting for the scanner.

I've had good success with ScanCafe for scanning negatives.




  
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Jan 28, 2017 20:42 |  #4

there are scanners that specilise in scanning negatives, I don't know of brands/models to suggest...
As to flat-bed scannere, I'd say they would tend to be sufficinet for scanning print. I spent several years using an HP fllatT-BED SCANNER, and got good results!


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Jan 28, 2017 20:55 |  #5

Any scanner under $600 will be crap, if you want decent scans on a budget do this.

http://www.japancamera​hunter.com …ning-film-digital-camera/ (external link)

Follow step by step, if you got poor results it was user error.

It'll actually be better quality than ANY flatbed scanner, the only thing that beats it is drum scanning.


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Jan 28, 2017 21:23 |  #6

I have the Canon 8800F, and it does a pretty good job of scanning negs, both color and B&W. I use the supplied MP Navigator program, but especially good results some when you tell the program to use the scanner driver ICE to remove dust etc. But it can be very time consuming, first to clean the negs as well as possible, so that info is not lost due to obscuring dust (causing the software to 'fake it' where the dust covered detail), and then to actually scan...it takes 8 minutes to do a one-pass scan at 4800 dpi! (although it can do 12 negs in a single pass) and results in a 30.5MPixel image of 2.13MB JPG.

The problem with scanners is that respected names like Nikon discontinued their film scanners. Plustek scanners can still be found for as little as $250-480 new.

Here is a randomly chosen shot probably about 50 years old scanned on the 8800F! I present the full frame so you can see how much the cropped area represents. The crop gives a better idea of the detail. (I don't know what camera captured this image!)

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IMAGE: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i63/wiltonw/POTN%202013%20Post%20Mar1/TriX%20neg_0001b_zpsu91n3mnq.jpg

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Jan 29, 2017 18:26 |  #7

I just noticed that you have medium format negs...unfortunately you would need to spend THOUSANDS if you do not get a flatbed scanner to do the scanning...Just check!

There is a new Kenko medium format-only scanner, for about $200, but its instructions only come in Japanese...you might try waiting until the product is tested and OKd for official import into USA.


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Jan 30, 2017 13:13 |  #8

Another aspect to consider is the software you are running to extract the scan data - there are several different flavors of silverfast:

http://www.silverfast.​com (external link)

to suit your needs and your budget.

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Feb 02, 2017 23:44 |  #9

I have an Epson V550 and Silverfast and I find it to work pretty well. I always scan at 3200dpi, then go into lightroom and do the sharpening using the Nik Collection (Output sharpener to be exact) and make any adjustments if needed. Don't expect to be getting as much detail as you do with a digital camera, but it's sufficient for small prints and web use. Medium format looks great on it; I've never used it, but a friend of mine does and it looks quite a bit better than the 35mm does.

Here's two examples of Portra 400 in 35mm:

IMAGE: https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/695/30914379784_f9de5ebc8f_z.jpg

IMAGE: https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/279/31609183282_d9ee7f55af_z.jpg

Those were before I started using Nik; it looks even sharper using that.

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Feb 03, 2017 02:25 |  #10

Another vote for Epson V550. I use it to scan both 35mm and medium format and so far am quite happy with the result. Some samples of scans from my Pentax 67 negs:

IMAGE: https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/634/32341648116_5e2b318878_b.jpg
IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/RgVp​dG  (external link) Lunch in medium format (external link) by Artem (external link), on Flickr

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/y5HH​Kd  (external link) Untitled (external link) by Artem (external link), on Flickr

IMAGE: https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/717/22293682744_65365b0bc4_b.jpg
IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/zY1X​bq  (external link) Pentax 67 test (external link) by Artem (external link), on Flickr

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