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Debating Fujifilm X70 or X100S/T/F for travel camera, video rated poor for all...

 
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Jan 26, 2017 21:55 |  #1

Hi Guys/Gals. I have owned several Canon DSLRs. I currently shoot with a 70D. I'm about to embark on a very busy trip to Japan in which I will have to pack light. After reading around I decided I wanted to try one of Fujifilms fixed lens cameras to take. Last week I found a local photographer ditching his like new X100S for cheap and I picked it up.

The X100S has blown my mind in several ways, good and bad. It's such a different way to take pictures. I didn't realize how used to Canon I have become. The camera is tiny compared to a DSLR, and can be tough to negotiate the settings. The pictures have been great so far with one major problem. It takes forever to focus, at least compared to my 70D. This is something I am not used to, and when trying to get photos of my toddler it makes it almost impossible to get a good shot as she can't ever sit still for longer than a second. I don't think this will be as big of an issue traveling. I'll play some more with it. Once I learn the camera a bit better I think I will be able to take some amazing photos.

I'd like to hear what you guys have to say. I really had my eyes on the X70 before buying this camera, and still may purchase one. I like the tilting screen as I like to shoot from low angles, its also the smaller than the X100 line. But I have read the video on all of these cameras is not great. I'd like to use a gorillapod and make some vlog type videos on my trip. The X70 apparently makes focusing noises, not sure if that is a deal breaker for videos. I haven't tried video yet on my X100S. Any thoughts on these cameras and my use? I think they all have incredible capability for their size, it would be a shame though to not be able to take decent vids.


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Feb 07, 2017 21:49 |  #2

Matrim33 wrote in post #18256450 (external link)
Hi Guys/Gals. I have owned several Canon DSLRs. I currently shoot with a 70D. I'm about to embark on a very busy trip to Japan in which I will have to pack light. After reading around I decided I wanted to try one of Fujifilms fixed lens cameras to take. Last week I found a local photographer ditching his like new X100S for cheap and I picked it up.

The X100S has blown my mind in several ways, good and bad. It's such a different way to take pictures. I didn't realize how used to Canon I have become. The camera is tiny compared to a DSLR, and can be tough to negotiate the settings. The pictures have been great so far with one major problem. It takes forever to focus, at least compared to my 70D. This is something I am not used to, and when trying to get photos of my toddler it makes it almost impossible to get a good shot as she can't ever sit still for longer than a second. I don't think this will be as big of an issue traveling. I'll play some more with it. Once I learn the camera a bit better I think I will be able to take some amazing photos.

I'd like to hear what you guys have to say. I really had my eyes on the X70 before buying this camera, and still may purchase one. I like the tilting screen as I like to shoot from low angles, its also the smaller than the X100 line. But I have read the video on all of these cameras is not great. I'd like to use a gorillapod and make some vlog type videos on my trip. The X70 apparently makes focusing noises, not sure if that is a deal breaker for videos. I haven't tried video yet on my X100S. Any thoughts on these cameras and my use? I think they all have incredible capability for their size, it would be a shame though to not be able to take decent vids.


For faster focusing have you tried shooting in C mode? C mode will track your subject easier than one shot or S mode

I have the X70 and yes the focusing is not silent for video.

And for traveling the X70 is completely pocketable, the X100 not so much but you can still make due. I traveled to Mexico last year with my 6D for a vacation and I regret not having a smaller camera on me at all times. The 6D stayed in the hotel most of the trip because I didn't want to lug it around during my trip.


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Feb 07, 2017 23:37 |  #3

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For faster focusing have you tried shooting in C mode? C mode will track your subject easier than one shot or S mode

I have the X70 and yes the focusing is not silent for video.

And for traveling the X70 is completely pocketable, the X100 not so much but you can still make due. I traveled to Mexico last year with my 6D for a vacation and I regret not having a smaller camera on me at all times. The 6D stayed in the hotel most of the trip because I didn't want to lug it around during my trip.

C mode is generally slower on the 16mp Fuji cameras in my experience.

OP, if you can afford to wait, you may want to pick up the newly announced X-T20 or X100F. Both are boasting much faster AF systems (if they're anything like my X-Pro2 then the difference will be drastic) and much better video.


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Feb 08, 2017 02:26 |  #4

There is a calling for the EOS-M5.

Small form factor. Dual pixel AF with internal stabilization. Performs better than your 70D almost in every aspect. It's very similar to the 80D with identical sensor.

Use a small native lens or buy an adapter and use your current lenses (if you must) with NO AF performance crippling.

If you buy a fuji 16mp camera you will want to throw it in the garbage if you try to do vlogging or any video. I absolutely love my Fuji but the video performance is an utter joke unless you buy into the newer 24MP bodies. Fast running toddlers isn't ideal to having a 16mp fuji body. The AF on the fuji 16mp is better suited for slower moving subjects. Tracking a child in close proximity can be challenging for the fuji AF. If your advanced in bounced flash fuji's flash system is still quite primitive unless you buy their latest flagship flash.

If your wanting a fuji badly consider the xpro2 or X-T2. This is more of a performer that can document casual sports to portraits.

The lens selection is not very big with the M5 but it might suit your needs. Sounds silly but even though I own an 80D I've been tempted to buy an M5. Shoot video and the output of the 80D/M5 (my experience) has an almost fuji look with a blend of canon too.

Another alternative is to upgrade your cell phone to a Samsung S7 or iphone 7 and use the excellent video performance from a convenient phone. The fuji system for stills is truly a treat to use and will provide better dynamic range than your 70D.

Lots of choices out there but if I was to go on a trip right now I think I'd buy an X-T2 before the trip. Interchangeable lenses is imperative for me. Many photographers can shoot virtually anything having a trinity of 3 primes. The fuji 18-55 is an incredible lens that can be a very good tool for a business trip. When the light gets challenging throw on a prime.

Since you bought a fixed lens body...... I would use your smartphone as your video camera.


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Feb 13, 2017 10:12 |  #5

AlanU wrote in post #18267565 (external link)
Another alternative is to upgrade your cell phone to a Samsung S7 or iphone 7 and use the excellent video performance from a convenient phone. The fuji system for stills is truly a treat to use and will provide better dynamic range than your 70D.

Since you bought a fixed lens body...... I would use your smartphone as your video camera.

I already have the S7. Seems like it would be tough to film myself with the back camera. How would you set this up?


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Feb 13, 2017 10:25 |  #6

Matrim33 wrote in post #18272213 (external link)
I already have the S7. Seems like it would be tough to film myself with the back camera. How would you set this up?

Look into a Dji Osmo or similar product for a cell phone gimbal stabilizer.


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Feb 13, 2017 11:22 |  #7

AlanU wrote in post #18272220 (external link)
Look into a Dji Osmo or similar product for a cell phone gimbal stabilizer.

Thanks, I'll check it out.


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