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Feb 14, 2017 17:49 |  #1

I need help figuring out what to do for this job quote!

Here's the somewhat loose details:
On location truck parts between 1000-5000 part numbers
3-5 photos per part
I supply lighting and backgrounds
They pick items each day and assist with placement of heavy items
Ongoing project with delivery of photos as edited

We briefly discussed how to charge, by hour, by item or by photo. Has anyone done a job of this scale? I know it's a really great opportunity for me so I don't want to over/under price myself.

Any advice is appreciated :)


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Feb 14, 2017 20:35 |  #2

Day rate.




  
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Feb 14, 2017 20:59 |  #3

Yup, Day rate


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Feb 14, 2017 21:16 |  #4
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https://petapixel.com …hotographers-charge-2016/ (external link)

Scroll down to the 'Per-Image Pricing' section. Then decide for yourself, based on your modus operandi, expected setup time, and the possibility of scope-creep on the part of the client.


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Feb 15, 2017 07:20 |  #5

Day rate for sure. When you have a day rate they are more likely to actually help you more because they can get more product photographed. If you do it per photo or item then they have no vested interesting in helping you work any faster and are less likely to help or come running when you need help with that heavy item.




  
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Feb 15, 2017 07:28 |  #6

Never make a low first offer. you can (almost) never raise it in negotiations.

First offer should be high enough to give ample negotiating to reduce it BASED ON FACTS or CONDITIONS which may lower your cost/effort.

For this project, I agree daily rate, for all the reasons given and more.


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Feb 15, 2017 07:55 |  #7

agree with everyone else.

daily rate.

don't forget to factor in post production time. you may want to set expectations with time required to set up/take pics of each product so you don't get flooded with half the stuff on day 1.


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Feb 15, 2017 08:45 |  #8

Thanks SO much ya'll! Your input is super helpful!


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Feb 15, 2017 08:56 |  #9

mikeinctown wrote in post #18274245 (external link)
Day rate for sure. When you have a day rate they are more likely to actually help you more because they can get more product photographed. If you do it per photo or item then they have no vested interesting in helping you work any faster and are less likely to help or come running when you need help with that heavy item.


Excellent point!


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Feb 15, 2017 10:13 |  #10

Day rate, but be prepared to give them an estimated number of items you expect to be able to photograph in a day so they can calculate the overall cost to them.




  
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Feb 16, 2017 15:56 |  #11

I was on the other side of the table for something similar. We brought in three photographers and two bid for the job as a whole and one itemized and included a day rate for shooting. We went with one of the all-ins. It was a big retail catalog/web shoot and we paid them BUCKETS of money.


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Feb 16, 2017 16:04 |  #12

Fernando wrote in post #18275790 (external link)
I was on the other side of the table for something similar. We brought in three photographers and two bid for the job as a whole and one itemized and included a day rate for shooting. We went with one of the all-ins. It was a big retail catalog/web shoot and we paid them BUCKETS of money.

How did you make that decision? How competitive were the rates?


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Feb 16, 2017 19:07 |  #13

I try to be realistic about how complicated the images will be versus how many shots that I can achieve in a day. Then I decide if it's to my advantage to charge by the piece or by the day. It will obviously be faster if you have on set art direction, support to prep, move and catalog the pieces. Ultimately, you will need to account for your time, expertise, usage and editing time of the images. As a former mentor once said, "eggs are cheaper by the dozen". It was this guy that shot for a large mail order catalog and we famously shot just over 100 items in one day. I guarantee you, he billed by the shot not the day. What are the expectations and how complicated are the shots?


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Make sure you factor in and itemise post-processing. Some clients get the impression that the only work the photographer does happens on site. They don't get to see all the hours spent at home/office doing post-processing. And, mind you, shooting parts and equipment not uncommonly involves A LOT of post-processing time, as these items normally have scratches and dust galore.


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