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Feb 13, 2017 21:23 |  #1

Probably one of my best water shots


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Feb 15, 2017 10:17 |  #2

Very cool scene!




  
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Feb 15, 2017 16:04 |  #3

I'm not sure of the composition but it's still a very nice shot.


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Feb 16, 2017 07:15 as a reply to  @ BlackBull's post |  #4

how so?


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Feb 16, 2017 07:57 |  #5

Since you posted this as a commercial shot 'Senior' photo I will take the liberty of giving you my impressions. The girl has a relatively thick waist. and a bad choice in dress styles because it accentuates it. I think if you had her twist towards the camera this would 'thin' the waist a bit and would help correct the bad stiff arm angle of the bear arm. the far arm and hand are also badly neglected, perhaps by having her reach up and touch her hair on that side would help.

Lastly the framing/crop is well, just not right. way too much space behind her, and too little in front. The very least would be to center her, a standard position for those looking into the camera, but I think more to the right would be the best. Put her almost to the right 1/3rd line. Lastly some reflected fill light to fill in the shadows would help as well.

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Feb 16, 2017 08:06 |  #6

Didereaux wrote in post #18275332 (external link)
Since you posted this as a commercial shot 'Senior' photo I will take the liberty of giving you my impressions. The girl has a relatively thick waist. and a bad choice in dress styles because it accentuates it. I think if you had her twist towards the camera this would 'thin' the waist a bit and would help correct the bad stiff arm angle of the bear arm. the far arm and hand are also badly neglected, perhaps by having her reach up and touch her hair on that side would help.

Lastly the framing/crop is well, just not right. way too much space behind her, and too little in front. The very least would be to center her, a standard position for those looking into the camera, but I think more to the right would be the best. Put her almost to the right 1/3rd line. Lastly some reflected fill light to fill in the shadows would help as well.

Just my take on things.

I agree w/ this and also need more light on her face, it appears to be 1/2-1 stop lower than the BG


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Feb 16, 2017 08:28 as a reply to  @ Didereaux's post |  #7

Thanks for your comments. That is the beauty of this forum. Everybody has a different eye for each image and that helps us see what can be improved. Never a perfect shot. Thanks again


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Feb 19, 2017 22:07 |  #8

I rarely shoot with water like this with lights, but it reminds me of the one time I tried, with flash added. I realized the challenge of the lines or marks on legs from light bouncing off an irregular water surface. Not particularly easy with an umbrella. But I think if I try a snoot or or aiming the light different, I may have more success for the look I want.


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Feb 20, 2017 15:02 |  #9

I think you may have missed an opportunity with the shot, at least in the way you presented it here. There looks to be some really nice back lighting on her. I would of liked to see her hair more free falling than coming over her shoulders. This would of given a lot more highlighted hair. Looks to me your exposure was for a solid patch of hair on her head, (which still looks too "digital" to me); however, her face looks really "digital" if that makes any sense. I won't comment on other aspects as I see the hair and face (not her physical face, but the lighting/rendering/pos​t of it) the most major issues for me.


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Feb 20, 2017 17:11 |  #10

Every time I saw the thread name, my mind immediately went to the wrong age bracket and I thought of a sexy red-haired senior citizen, and not a Senior portrait :-P

To get past that immediate bias, I adjusted color balance because her facial tones seemed too blue. I also adjusted the crop a tiny bit, to remove some of the space behind her.

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And although I inherently know that the camera might be truly level to the horizon, and the background spit of land may recede away from the camera from one side of the frame to the other, the apparent 'not level waterline' was too distracting to leave alone!

Lastly, she seems underexposed. So I corrected that as well.

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Feb 24, 2017 05:15 |  #11

The face appears to be heavily processed with little detail, at least to me. Did the original have really dark, heavy shadows on the face?




  
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Feb 24, 2017 11:34 as a reply to  @ jebrady03's post |  #12

Which one? The original or the one Wilt did? I prefer mine over Wilt's as the highlights are to bright and the image now feels washed out as well as loosing the contrast in the water. I could have increased the exposure on her face a touch. I also like the idea Ryan's idea of letting her hair down on the sun side of her body. Her face in mine has very little to no processing, she has a great complexion.

In response to Wilt's comments the shore is getting further from the camera from right to left.


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Feb 24, 2017 12:21 |  #13

I prefer the original poster's photo.

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Feb 24, 2017 19:03 |  #14

genedarrell wrote in post #18283847 (external link)
Which one? The original or the one Wilt did?

Both, but I was referring to the original. High ISO with heavy noise reduction?




  
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Feb 24, 2017 21:27 as a reply to  @ jebrady03's post |  #15

no, if you notice i shot at ISO 100. Noise reduction off


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