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Looking for tips - big zoom + flash @ dusk

 
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Mar 03, 2016 08:05 |  #1

Hello bird photographers who are much more talented then I. Its that time of year where the woodcocks are out displaying at the park near my house. I really want to photograph one. I know where they are and when they come out. That is the issue. Finding them in the daylight is pretty much impossible, but in the evening, I know right where they are. I will obviously need to use a flash, and Im looking for tips about what I should set my camera at for this. I found out I need to stay in 'one shot' focus mode so i can use the AF assist light on the flash. I had the flash set to manual mode ( 550EX II ), zoom set to 105mm ( max ) and power at like 1/2 with a shutter of 1/100 and iso 800 i think( 400mm @ f5.6 ). the light seemed good, but focus was a big struggle for me. ( i learned about one shot and af assist after i got home ) Anything else i should know or be doing? The birds show up between 6:00 and 6:40 pm, sunset is right at about 6 pm currently, so im working with very little light.


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Aug 22, 2016 20:47 |  #2

I've never used a flash for bird photography. Did you get any shots of the woodcock.


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Aug 22, 2016 21:22 |  #3
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What Larry Johnson said: seeing your 'failed' shots would help in giving pointers.

I've used flash for birds, but the results have been mediocre: really need to get a Better Beamer for this endeavour.

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Aug 22, 2016 21:59 |  #4

Depending on the situation you might want to have a wider beam of flash. Also, the look you are trying to achieve can cause different settings. I always recommend using flash extenders to get the flash off- camera in order to reduce red/ steal eye. Sometimes I'll use an ST-E3/ hold the flash in a position for a main light source. (I mainly shoot in manual mode with a better beamer)

To focus in dark situations (like the owl image) don't rely on any beams, but quickly flash the flashlight on the subject.

Flash off- camera:

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Sometimes I just want some fill flash, and use high speed sync to add some nice light

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I used the flash as a main light source for the owl image, and purposely had a high shutter speed/ underexposed the background to get it dark

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Here I held the flash in an angle above the baby birds without a better beamer as my main source of light

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Aug 27, 2016 11:41 |  #5

I actually never got a single shot off this spring with the woodcocks. They werent out nearly in full force as they were in previous years. So I wont have a chance to mess with them again until next spring.


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Jan 15, 2017 20:42 |  #6

Look you glenn bartley on YouTube.
He has a good flash tutorial.



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Feb 17, 2017 12:24 |  #7

I'll just say that flash can, in fact, come in handy, I've used a 580 EX flash with a Better Beamer flash extender. the not-so-good news is that it can be common to get some eye "glare" with the direct flash. But I will say that sometimes it just works!

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