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Was buying a 5D4 a stupid decision ?

 
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Feb 15, 2017 06:24 |  #16

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If it didn't create a financial burden, then I can't say it was a stupid decision. On the other hand, its hard to see how owning a 5D3 and a 5D4 is practical in your situation. Even a 5D3 and 7D2 would be more practical because of the 1.6 crop factor, if nothing else. With that said, everybody has made impractical purchases because they simply want something regardless of how much sense it makes to have it. Did you buy the 5D4 because it you wanted the latest and greatest, or did you buy it for some other reason?

Reason for having a 5d3 and 5d4 is for the occasional wedding gig. I'd rather have another full frame as backup.

My main reason for buying the 5D4 was for the extra resolution, dynamic range, DPAF which now allows me to take some video with my DSLR...something I was never comfortable doing before since manually focusing video is quite difficult.


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Feb 15, 2017 06:27 |  #17

evolyllaphotography wrote in post #18269780 (external link)
Nothing wrong with paying for a hobby. It's very normal that enthusiasts have better equipments than the pros nowadays. How are you liking the Mark IV? I'd love to upgrade too :)

I'm absolutely loving it ! It focuses faster and low light focusing is greatly improved. I love shooting in live view now since the touch focus in extremely handy and accurate.


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Feb 15, 2017 09:01 |  #18

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I'm absolutely loving it ! It focuses faster and low light focusing is greatly improved. I love shooting in live view now since the touch focus in extremely handy and accurate.

Good to hear your liking the 5dmk4. It's on my radar for the next Canon body to purchase.

I'm in a similar situation where my photographic passion gives me side photography work as well as working a full time job.

I do find that any sort of video taken with a dslr does not always even look as good as a video taken with an iphone6+ or 7 or even a Samsung s7. In most cases video taken with a dlsr requires post processing.

On a substantially cheaper approach I purchased an 80D. Fast focus, DPAF, touch swivel screen, incredible dynamic range and added the Technicolor Cinestyle profile for a flatter video for post. My Fuji X-t2 produces incredible 4k and 1080 footage virtually straight out of camera using film simulation settings with very good run/gun video AF. The dynamic range is ever so slightly behind the 5dmk4 !!

I think what we all invest in is different. Since your a family man your investment in the 5dmk4 is going to get you priceless video and images at a cost of $4500CDN + tax :) I say it's totally worth it!! Consumer electronics: Camera's and TV's/Audio is substantially cheaper in the US. As of recent years camera gear has jumped in price $$$$$$ a lot in Canada :(


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Feb 15, 2017 10:01 |  #19

You just need a friend in the US to send you used camera equipment up to the North!


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Feb 15, 2017 14:02 |  #20

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You just need a friend in the US to send you used camera equipment up to the North!


It's all about the $$$ exchange rate.

The more affordable 3500 USD in the US consumer= 4580 CDN ($5129 incl tax) :(


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Feb 15, 2017 15:02 |  #21

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It's all about the $$$ exchange rate.

The more affordable 3500 USD in the US consumer= 4580 CDN ($5129 incl tax) :(

Ah, true... when we were heavy into development of the TMS that CP uses, the 2 dollars were nearly equal. We are back to the exchange rates they were before we landed that project.


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Feb 17, 2017 22:31 |  #22

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I have an entire closet full of gear. I don't need any of it. I like it. I enjoy it. I can afford it. I am sure buying your 5D4 was a good decision. It is smarter than dying with a pile of money.

Perfectly said. Exactly the same here. I have some insanely good gear for a hobbyist including the 1DXii, 5D4, 200 f2 & lots of other lenses & lights. If I add up the cost of it all it's quite scary, but I use it all and love it so it's worth it to me.

A single fancy car or yacht could still cost waaaaay more, without even factoring in things like the maintenance & insurance that go with them.


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Feb 18, 2017 01:32 |  #23

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A single fancy car or yacht could still cost waaaaay more, without even factoring in things like the maintenance & insurance that go with them.

Indeed. Once, a colleague of mine asked me how much my 500/4 II cost. When I said I paid about $8000 for it, he couldn't believe I could spend that much for a lens. I told him that when I factored in my Ford Focus and his BMW 5 series, I still came out way ahead.


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Feb 18, 2017 01:59 |  #24

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Indeed. Once, a colleague of mine asked me how much my 500/4 II cost. When I said I paid about $8000 for it, he couldn't believe I could spend that much for a lens. I told him that when I factored in my Ford Focus and his BMW 5 series, I still came out way ahead.

Well ahead! :-P

I'm perfectly happy with my Mazda hatch, just want to go from A to B in reasonable comfort with enough room for my gear! The gear cost me way more than the car.


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Feb 19, 2017 22:59 |  #25

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Scrumhalf wrote in post #18277224 (external link)
Indeed. Once, a colleague of mine asked me how much my 500/4 II cost. When I said I paid about $8000 for it, he couldn't believe I could spend that much for a lens. I told him that when I factored in my Ford Focus and his BMW 5 series, I still came out way ahead.

And the clincher is, that you could use that lens hard for 10 years and then sell it for, like, $6000, recouping 75% of your investment.

After 10 years of driving his BMW 5 series, how much of his money will he be able to recoup?

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Mar 02, 2017 18:28 |  #26

don't feel bad OP, I am in exact same boat as you and shoot 5-6 weddings as a second shooter and 1-2 on my own. My full-time job allows me to fund this hobby and like you, I do love spending time with my wife and kid. I recently purchased a 1DX MKII and have a very good selection of lenses which do not get used as much as I would like. I will be honest and admit I had buyers remorse after purchasing the 1DX MKII as I find the camera is way too much for me and I am not using its features to its full potential but I know I will have the camera for next 5 years for sure. Heck, I had been and still use 5D MKII since 2012.

I do wish if I bought the 5d MKIV instead of IDX but ohh well, you live once and as long as I can afford to do so and not dip into my savings to buy gear then its all good.

Enjoy your camera!

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