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Feb 21, 2017 08:49 |  #30556

if you check out the actual scene comparison, the sony looks better wide open: https://www.dpreview.c​om …igma-85mm-f1-4-art-lens/3 (external link)

granted the differences are too close, I'de buy based on available money, size, and bokeh performance. In my eyes, sony wins out the bokeh performance with complex scenes. In the bokeh comparison, sony CLEARLY does better IMO, no sharp edges of highlights.


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Feb 21, 2017 08:59 |  #30557

Charlie wrote in post #18280346 (external link)
if you check out the actual scene comparison, the sony looks better wide open: https://www.dpreview.c​om …igma-85mm-f1-4-art-lens/3 (external link)

granted the differences are too close, I'de buy based on available money, size, and bokeh performance. In my eyes, sony wins out the bokeh performance with complex scenes. In the bokeh comparison, sony CLEARLY does better IMO, no sharp edges of highlights.

The bokeh on the Sigma 85 is pretty bad from what I've seen. I think its a good option for landscapers, but for portraits, its a non-starter for me.

OOF highlights go beyond unpleasing...they distract from the subject itself:

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Feb 21, 2017 09:12 |  #30558

Rayfo, I'm digging your style. Nicely done.

Here is an interesting article from BastianK on PhillipReeve.net on best lenses for sunstars. Makes me want to get the CV12 even more.

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Feb 21, 2017 09:29 |  #30559

David Arbogast wrote in post #18279842 (external link)
I can't comment on the 50mm 1.8, but have used the 55mm and was pretty crazy about it. At the time I hadn't fully committed the Sony FE and decided not to keep it then. But I've been wanting it in my bag ever since. Looking forward to receiving it from BH on Wednesday.

Anyway, I think that that would be a nice move.

I'll say this though - I decided to buy it new rather than used so I can return if not 100% satisfied. Full price = buyer's insurance.

David....I added the FE 55 back to my kit recently and am impressed with it (again). I can't comment on its performance as a landscape lens because I've been using it for portraits, but wide open the lens is really sharp. Great colors and contrast too...The downside is the CA that others have mentioned, but also some onion bokeh.

I've been using the 55 as a substitute for the 85GM when I want to pack light and/or need a medium telephoto lens with a more flexible working distance and its worked well in that regard.

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Feb 21, 2017 09:32 |  #30560

digital_AM wrote in post #18280372 (external link)
Here is an interesting article from BastianK on PhillipReeve.net on best lenses for sunstars. Makes me want to get the CV12 even more.

https://phillipreeve.n​et …best-lenses-for-sunstars/ (external link)

I'm so hooked by the 12mm that I now feel an overwhelming urge to add the 15mm. And if I do that, then switching from Batis 18mm/25mm to Loxia 21mm might make more sense. 12mm, 15mm, and 21mm are spaced out nicely. Not sure about a 21mm to 55mm gap (or a 25mm to 55mm gap). I may need to consider returning my 55mm and get something at 35mm (probably CV Ultron 35mm (external link) is my best choice). However, I do love the little 55mm: super sharp, lightweight, small, AF. Hate these conflicted decisions and limited budgets. :p


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Feb 21, 2017 09:38 |  #30561

David Arbogast wrote in post #18280398 (external link)
I'm so hooked by the 12mm that I now feel an overwhelming urge to add the 15mm. And if I do that, then switching from Batis 18mm/25mm to Loxia 21mm might make more sense. 12mm, 15mm, and 21mm are spaced out nicely. Not sure about a 21mm to 55mm gap (or a 25mm to 55mm gap). I may need to consider returning my 55mm and get something at 35mm (probably CV Ultron 35mm (external link) is my best choice). However, I do love the little 55mm: super sharp, lightweight, small, AF. Hate these conflicted decisions and limited budgets. :p

10 + 21 is how I'de like to roll, however, that leaves 35/50 as questionable. I think I'm going to keep with a good starburst machine, I just love it so much.


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Feb 21, 2017 10:20 |  #30562

digital_AM wrote in post #18280372 (external link)
Rayfo, I'm digging your style. Nicely done.

Very kind, Alfredo - thank you.


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Feb 21, 2017 10:30 |  #30563

If I was gonna put something that huge on my camera body I would have never sold my 5D3, but that's just me.


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Feb 21, 2017 10:53 |  #30564

Speaking of the 85GM Autofocus. Here's an AF-C/Lock-on Flexible Focus samples... and he's on a race. Really fast.
Autofocus locks in very fast. and this was at F2 ISO40,000 on a poorly-lit skating rink

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Feb 21, 2017 12:10 |  #30565
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idsurfer wrote in post #18280462 (external link)
If I was gonna put something that huge on my camera body I would have never sold my 5D3, but that's just me.

I feel the same way, 85 GM is not that tiny either... that FE 85 1.8 looks good, I wonder if FE 85 1.8 and FE 100 GM STF might be a better combo then 85 GM


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Feb 21, 2017 13:11 |  #30566

Batis 18mm:

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Feb 21, 2017 13:21 |  #30567

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Batis 18mm:
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Wow. Sometimes your pictures are so clean i would believe if you'd tell me its a rendering instead of a photo lol. Awesome!


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Feb 21, 2017 13:22 |  #30568

davidfarina wrote in post #18280588 (external link)
Wow. Sometimes your pictures are so clean i would believe if you'd tell me its a rendering instead of a photo lol. Awesome!

Agreed. Amazing image


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Feb 21, 2017 13:31 |  #30569

David Arbogast wrote in post #18280578 (external link)
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Wow! Super clean lines and colors that pop. The low angle perspective is excellent. Did you do a lot of perspective correction?


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Feb 21, 2017 13:39 |  #30570
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No one mentioned the new 11mm full frame Irix lens?

Two versions, metal for 800ish and plastic for 500ish.

Manual with apperature control and exif transfer.

Almost no distortion.

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